Emily Fired Her Mom As a Client: Navigating Boundaries

Ever wondered how TV shows like "The Bachelor" and "Gilmore Girls" can shape the bond between a mother and daughter? Join us on a heartfelt trip down memory lane as we relive our middle and high school years, discussing the fun and challenges of growing together as a mother-daughter duo. We'll laugh about our shared TV obsessions and reflect on how our viewing habits have evolved, especially when it comes to the latest seasons of "The Bachelor" and the heartwarming "The Golden Bachelor." 

Navigating the parent-child relationship isn't always smooth sailing, but it’s filled with lessons that shape who we become as adults. We'll be getting real about honesty, boundaries, and the tricky terrain of adolescence, sharing personal stories that highlight the emotional rollercoaster of growing up. Therapy and open communication have played significant roles in our journey, and we’ll offer insights into how these tools have strengthened our bond and helped us set healthy boundaries that respect our individual growth.

Prepare for a mix of laughter and introspection as we recount some of our most hilarious and outrageous moments, from secret water park adventures to brainstorming the silliest names for Jackson. We'll also touch on the lighter side of coping with intrusive thoughts and celebrate a cherished "Lorelei and Rory" moment from our trip to FSU, drawing parallels to our favorite scenes from "Gilmore Girls." This episode is a joyous celebration of mother-daughter dynamics, filled with heartfelt stories, valuable lessons, and plenty of humor.

Chapters

• 0:02 Mother-Daughter Relationships
• 10:47 Navigating Parent-Child Relationships
• 17:32 Navigating Changing Parent-Daughter Dynamics
• 25:09 Navigating Coaching and Parenting Dynamics
• 28:25 Reflecting on Mother-Daughter Dynamics

Transcript

Speaker 1 0:02

Hey, welcome to Mind your Heart Podcast, your favorite corner of the internet where we chat about all things mental health.

Speaker 2 0:09

I'm Emily and I'm Trina. Together, we're like your real-life Lorelai and Rory Gilmore. Each week, we'll bring you real conversations about the world of mental health and we will peel back layers on topics like anxiety, depression and much more.

Speaker 1 0:24

We're here to chat with you about the tough stuff, the everyday stuff and everything in between. So grab your emotional support water bottle I know we have ours. Find your comfiest chair or keep your eyes on the road and let's get into it. Are you ready, mom?

Speaker 2 0:39

Absolutely. Join us as we mind our hearts and hopefully make minding yours a little easier.

Speaker 1 0:46

Welcome back, thanks. Welcome back to my house too. Yeah, I know, right back to your house, and now we have. Daisy.

Speaker 2 0:54

Yes.

Speaker 1 0:54

For those of you who are not watching this on YouTube, which you totally can, there's a sweet puppy that is joining us my dog, daisy. Daisy may, my grand dog yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 1:13

So today, because we've had like two pretty intense, yeah, a little heavy, yeah, episodes, we thought we would do something a little lighter and um fun, and that is we're going to talk a little bit about mothers and daughters, like moms and daughter relationships and um. I think we will do this periodically though, like I, I, yeah, I think we should have conversations like this and maybe even if if people have questions or yeah.

Speaker 1 1:44

Yeah, yeah, I definitely want to like down the line, like make some room for like people to possibly even like call in or like ask us questions, like on social media. Like you know, we haven't plugged ourselves at all yeah. You can follow us on.

Speaker 1 2:01

Instagram. We have an Instagram. It's at MindYourHeartPod and it's the same thing on YouTube as well. So, like, if you just look up YouTubecom slash at MindYourHeartPod, you can find us there as well, and then we both have our own individual social media channel. So my instagram is confidence coach m on instagram and then trina underscore debory, yeah, so you can find us there, but all of that stuff also will be like linked below um, so you don't have to remember that, yeah, that's a lot okay.

Speaker 2 2:47

So, um, yeah, so we can talk about. So let's talk about um one of our like when you think about us, like, what do you think? What do you think is something like kind of unique or special about our relationship?

Speaker 1 3:07

I don't know. I feel like I guess the way and that's it's hard, because I feel like there's like we're not like a lot of mother-daughter relationships yeah, at least for sure we weren't like in the earlier years. I think like we have definitely like grown into something a little different. Yeah, definitely now.

Speaker 2 3:32

Yeah, let's talk about um like how it was before, and then we'll talk about okay, how, how, it's, what's changed, because I think it is um really eye-opening for women, for mothers, to go through this distance with your adult children. I think anyone that is an empty nester or your child is an adult it changes. So, let's talk about the um the first. Like the, early part.

Speaker 1 4:07

So you mean like kind of like middle school through high school Cause that's what I'm thinking.

Speaker 2 4:12

Yeah, we just spent. We spent a lot of time together. Yeah, like a lot of time, and we loved to watch like the Bachelor. I remember that. Yeah, and Gilmore Girls, we started watching the Bachelor as a joke.

Speaker 1 4:21

Yes, Because I didn't want anything to do with that. Yeah, and Gilmore Girls, we started watching the Bachelor as a joke?

Speaker 2 4:26

Yes, because I didn't want anything to do with that.

Speaker 1 4:28

Yeah, because we thought it was going to be so ridiculous, yeah. And then we were like, okay, well, maybe we should watch it another season.

Speaker 2 4:35

Yeah, it's coming on Monday, yeah, so maybe we should watch it yeah.

Speaker 1 4:39

Yeah, and then we started watching it together like religiously, and then when Jake and I started dating, all three of us would watch it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 4:47

And then you guys excluded me and just left me out.

Speaker 1 4:48

That's not true.

Speaker 2 4:50

We did not exclude you, but it was yeah, but it was like our thing and then it became yours and Jake's thing and it was like eh. Yeah, that's all right.

Speaker 1 5:00

That's part of life. Yeah that's part of life, yeah, that's, that's the way that's part of now. He doesn't even like watching just the bachelor bachelorette. He like wants to see bachelor in paradise which is fair.

Speaker 2 5:11

That's funny, but I know I don't the bachelor like. I don't think I'm gonna watch it this season. Has it started? It's with jen right yeah, no, I'm not super excited for that yeah um, I loved joey's season.

Speaker 1 5:24

Yeah, I liked joey's season and I. I am like the kind of person that whenever you watch like these people on reality tv, like I am going to follow you on instagram and like know your life that's after that like I know, like joey and kelsey have been like traveling, like they were just in florida.

Speaker 2 5:43

That's hilarious. I don't know anything. As soon as they're done.

Speaker 1 5:46

I'm like they're done for me Really, yeah, no, I'm like invested Especially in Joey and Kelsey, because I really really liked Joey's season a lot. Yeah, it was a good season.

Speaker 2 5:55

Yeah, I liked the Golden Bachelor. I didn't finish that. Yeah, I liked it, although I guess it's a really disappointing ending. I was yeah, yeah, yeah, they got divorced. Yeah, and also I feel a little gypped as the Generation X.

Speaker 1 6:11

Yeah, but they just went like from, like Just totally skipped us Like it's like hello. I feel like they tried to do like the earlier part of your generation with Claire Huh, but then like she was like just kidding, I'm in love right away, right away.

Speaker 2 6:30

Um no, I know that's yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 6:33

Well, they could try again I mean I definitely think they should, because that season, like the men on that season, were so like mature and good.

Speaker 2 6:42

Yeah, like I liked watching the men there yeah, it's when people are like so young that they're that they haven't had any life experience. It's just I don't know it, it doesn't. It's just I don't like it as much, but I have gotten a chance.

Speaker 1 6:59

There's just more like ridiculous.

Speaker 2 7:01

Yes, I have gotten a chance to like listen to the intros of all the guys for jen's season. Oh really, yeah. Well, this will come out, um, it will have already started, um, oh yeah, yeah when does it come out? I have no idea.

Speaker 1 7:15

Okay, all right, so we don't even know if that's true.

Speaker 2 7:17

Yeah, I do know, it's okay, it's coming okay, but um, and we're yeah, and this will be a little bit to the future.

Speaker 1 7:25

Who was the runner up? It was Kelsey and I don't know. I can't remember because I feel like, oh, daisy, it was.

Speaker 2 7:36

Daisy. Oh yeah, I love Daisy, I love Daisy. Yeah, I love Daisy.

Speaker 1 7:39

I am. I was really bummed when she wasn't going to be the bachelorette because, like I just think she's so cool, I follow her.

Speaker 2 7:46

I really want it. I really like Daisy. Now I, I, if it was Daisy, I would be watching it. And it's nothing against Jen, it's just that I didn't get connected to her. I feel like we didn't learn anything about her. So that feels really weird. So, um, so that's how. That's one thing that we used to do together. And then we started watching. What does that one like teenage tween show? Um, with the pretty little liars really.

Speaker 1 8:16

Yeah, I watched that like that was a long time ago. Yeah, it was a long time, like in the two story house I was, I wasn't watching that then I watched it with you in um when we were yeah, they have a new version of that. It's like a horror version.

Speaker 2 8:30

Oh no, yeah, um, it's creepy yeah, it was a little too much anyway, but I wanted to like watch what you were watching.

Speaker 1 8:38

We used to go on like bike rides and stuff together.

Speaker 2 8:40

Yeah we used to go on bike rides. We, um, emily gives the best foot massages in the world, and um, that is the best we watched gray's anatomy together. When did we find gilmore girls?

Speaker 1 8:55

I feel like that was when, um, like you moved into the house you're in now really yeah, because, like it, gilmore Girls started to become more of like a, like a re-trend, and it was like a little bit after we started watching it. Oh, such a good show, such a good show so good. Yeah, I think I've re-watched that show I don't know so many times. It just like makes you feel good?

Speaker 2 9:22

Yeah, I think so too. It makes me happy. I'm like luke and lorelei, rory logan, logan the grandfather, and um richard and emily.

Speaker 1 9:32

Yeah, so yeah, I, I, I love that show I've watched it I'm watching parenthood right now oh also such a good show good show.

Speaker 2 9:43

Um these kind of shows. I guess when you have anxiety you like to repeat watch. It helps um with with that?

Speaker 1 9:51

yeah, because you don't have to guess what's gonna happen. So, like it's really common in people who have anxiety to re-watch shows over and over again because, like their brain doesn't have to anticipate something like you feel like you know what's gonna happen and you're comfortable with that, you can kind of relax, yeah, your brain can kind of take a back seat, yeah, which is kind of like. It's funny because, like with books, I will read like the last couple of pages before I read the book?

Speaker 2 10:17

Oh gosh, there's no way. I would totally not. We're not editing, so we might as well just keep going.

Speaker 1 10:24

Yeah, no, I know.

Speaker 2 10:25

I would totally not do that. I have to. I like to, I actually like to anticipate. It's just that when I'm tired in the evening it's nice. I just feel like I'm joining old friends. I don't know, that's just how I feel.

Navigating Parent-Child Relationships

Speaker 1 10:40

Anyway, yeah, no, I get anxious. So I want to know, I want to know the end. And I was even talking to one of my friends about this who she was like I just don't like movies because like it just feels like I'm waiting to like know what happens. And I was like why don't you just look up the end before you go see it? And she was like that's a great idea. Like I feel like I would be so much more excited to go see a movie.

Speaker 2 11:04

That is crazy. I would never want to do that. And like, as a teacher, I think back, I wouldn't be like don't go to the end of the book. Like you don't want to go to the end, I feel like you're just so hopeful You're going to ruin the end for yourself. But I didn't. I never thought about how.

Speaker 1 11:17

But you also don't know how they get there. Like if you're reading the last couple of pages, like you're not getting the whole end you're just getting kind of like in this recent book that I was reading uh, spoiler alert for the twisted series. If you're reading that, um, I read twisted love, which is the first one, and I like just wanted to know if they ended up together, because I'm like, if they don't end up together, like I'm gonna be really upset. So I like read the last page spoil it for yourself.

Speaker 2 11:47

Yeah, that's, that's great.

Speaker 1 11:49

I was like okay, I can keep going as a media specialist and as a teacher.

Speaker 2 11:52

I do not encourage that. I, I do not. Um no, I, I like, I like trying to figure it out and predict, make predictions, um, but anyway.

Speaker 1 12:05

So so those were just some of the things that we would do together, but I just felt like we had like a very special connection yeah, yeah, and I like told you like everything, like people would tell me stuff at school and I'd be like, well, let's see what my mom thinks about this, and they're like what?

Speaker 2 12:22

yeah.

Speaker 1 12:23

I'm like I tell her everything, like that's just how it was, yeah, and people are like wow, like that, and she doesn't like get upset or like isn't like mad about anything. I'm like no, like it just.

Speaker 2 12:33

I just am honest but you weren't really doing anything that would be upset worthy.

Speaker 1 12:38

Yeah, so that's, that's the other thing, when I did like kind of for the first time, did something that upset you. Do you know what I'm talking about? No, I was in high school, I don't know Really. It was like really the only time that I had kind of I kind of I lied, yeah I don't remember you lying. Well, I I don't remember.

Speaker 2 13:04

I do feel like there's a lot of pressure on you and jackson not to lie. And then when I learned while in counseling with jackson that, um, lying is a part of adolescence, so you have to test that boundary on, I'm like, oh, whoops then I thought I did not lie, I was not somebody who lied, yeah, but that one that was a big deal to me. It is a big deal to me still.

Speaker 1 13:28

Yeah, yeah, well understandably, yeah, but I remember like that was the like first time, like you were really mad at me and I had like skipped my last class, like I was supposed to. Um, I was like scheduled to skip my last class for a dance thing that I had, so like that was like known, but um, instead of just skipping the last class, I skipped this stupid thing that we had called the walk, um to like get in our physical activity and um, and I think I like left early from like the class that you go to the walk from and so that way we could, um, and I think I like left early from like the class that you go to the walk from.

Speaker 1 14:06

And so that way we could like get something to eat. So, like me and like a couple of my, friends, I was mad. Yeah, because I told you, like I told you that that's I didn't tell you that happened, like I basically was. Like I had said like oh yeah, like I'm allowed to skip this class, which I was. Yeah, like I'm allowed to skip this class, which I was allowed to skip that last class, because everybody knew that. You just didn't give me the whole story but I yeah I didn't tell you that I had skipped the walk.

Speaker 1 14:29

And what? How did I find out? I eventually told you okay, because I felt so guilty. Well, I don't remember that and you were like, you lied to me and I was like I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 14:40

I think because lying was such a trigger for me, yeah, that I felt I felt I got. I did that to Jackson too. I'm like you lied. It wasn't even the fact that he had gotten in trouble about something, that was serious, it was more. That you lied, yeah, I felt like betrayed. Yeah, that's a little excessive, though I realize. Now at this point you just feel I don't know, you just don't know.

Speaker 1 15:05

But you're also in a relationship where there was lots of lying, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 15:10

So it would be triggering. I think that you, you as a parent, you try to like do that your best, the best that you can, but, um, you're not going to always get it right.

Speaker 1 15:21

No.

Speaker 2 15:22

You're going to, you're going to mess up and um, and that's part of it, yeah, but um, but it does change, like you know, as you got older, like you, and then when you moved here, like when you, when you moved away from the house, Like to this house.

Speaker 2 15:37

Yes To this house, Not even to your, the first apartment but it was this house when you started seeing um a counselor and you were really into boundaries. And I remember the first time that you were like, well, I'm setting a boundary and if you don't like it, that's basically too bad. And I remember being like what I just felt. So, yeah, I don't know how I felt. I was like I remember talking to jane it and she was like she's like boundaries, yep, okay, and she's like.

Speaker 1 16:12

It was also like very much of a like I hadn't learned how to do that with really anyone, yeah, and so it was like a very and my counselor at the time she had told me she was like it's going to be very extreme.

Speaker 1 16:26

My counselor at the time she had told me she was like it's gonna be very extreme for you in the beginning, and then it'll go to like where you actually understand, like how that feels, um, but yeah, I, I think it was, it was just like and also like I think back to that and I'm like I knew that like I wasn't gonna like by like figuring our boundaries out, yeah, but like I did feel like there needed to be some like growth with like where we were Like because I wasn't a teenager anymore.

Speaker 1 16:58

Yeah, Like just telling you like all the things. Like I have a partner like who I tell those things to, but like I still like like want a relationship with you and like wanted to like figure that out. It was definitely like it was. That was difficult. Yeah, I mean like I basically fired you as my client.

Speaker 2 17:16

I did fire you as my client, yeah yeah, that was difficult, yeah, that was a hard time. I was like, how did we get here? I remember feeling like that, like how, how do we? I don't know what to do, like I mean.

Speaker 1 17:32

I'm trying to remember where you were, like what was going on, like in your life too.

Speaker 2 17:38

I don't remember. I just know that, um, I mean, things change and and like you were the person I talked to about so many things and the and and like I, I didn't even intention intend for that to be. Yeah, you know, I was like I'm she's not going to be my friend, this is my daughter, I'm the mother. I felt really strongly about that and you were like that's ridiculous, we can be both. And um, you said that to me as a teenager and I remember being like why am I being so? Because I, I didn't want that.

Speaker 1 18:14

Like, I wanted my mom to be my mom, yeah, and I felt like I needed her as a mom and well, she tried a little more to be a friend, yeah, than a mom, and you were trying more to be a mom than a friend, but then, like we became both, yeah, but then, like I feel like there was just times, like when things were really hard, where like, like I was still a kid, you were still a kid, and like it was. I think, like in that transition of me learning those boundaries, it was like I had to figure out, um, like what that? Like what that looks like now, because I'm like I can't I can't always be the one.

Speaker 2 18:55

No, you definitely couldn't be. Yeah, but that was a hard adjustment because I took like you even you saying that as a teenager I shouldn't have taken that as full like.

Speaker 2 19:05

Oh great that as a teenager, I shouldn't have taken that as full like, oh, great, now, yeah, I have permission. Yeah, um, but I, I think I there's some part of me that did, and so then I felt like I kind of lost my friend, lost my person and, um, when your life started to change and you know, you fell in love and you found a person and not just because I don't have a person, it was like a loss for me and I didn't know what. I didn't know what, where to go, because the person I would talk to about those kind of things was you. So it was like a weird dynamic for me and I I was like this is part of life, like I have to adjust to this, and also I did still have to take care of Jackson, like there was a lot Jackson needed a lot at that time and and I had had a time where I wasn't, you know, wasn't dealing with that because he wasn't talking to me. So I really had to step into being a mom, like his mom, and like help, guide him and like help him, and so that was a distraction for sure, yeah, but it it was definitely.

Speaker 2 20:11

I don't know, it just felt it was. It was hard. I had a hard time with the boundaries and then I was like I don't want these damn boundaries, like I'm, like I don't put boundaries on her, why does she have to put boundaries on me? And then, um, but then I started to realize this makes sense and this is a part of growing up, but I think it's. I think I think sometimes moms want to hold on to that because it's really hard to go from this like really close excuse me this really close bond and then feel like you're separated yeah, well, and the transition definitely felt like that.

Speaker 1 20:46

I don't feel like that now, though.

Speaker 1 20:47

No, I don't either, like I feel like that was just a time yeah where we like had to like figure it out, and I also think that, like, there are times where people don't have that, they don't grow into boundaries, and I think that that would have been so much worse because, like our even like our working relationship, yeah, is so different, like it definitely, like I feel like it used to be, like we were kind of tiptoeing around things and like I don't, I never felt like that with you, with anything.

Speaker 1 21:17

So, like that used to be weird. It's not like that now. Yeah, like we communicate better, yeah, and like I also like like I still talk to you about stuff and you still talk to me about stuff, and also like you're able to ask me, like can I talk to you about this?

Speaker 1 21:33

and I'm able to like say yes or no and like it not be like taking offense and also like me to tell you like, can I ask you about this like? And so it's a mix. It's a healthier mix of mom and daughter versus like just being like. Because it was like the boundaries in my head. I was like, well, we have to be mom here and daughter like or this relationship here and this, but like it's not like that.

Speaker 1 22:00

Now it's like, okay, well, like we work together and you're my mom, so like we don't have to completely separate that. But I went like to the off, the deep end. In the beginning I was like you can't text me at this number for work stuff which, like I did do with all of my clients and I still do because I need them.

Speaker 2 22:18

I tried really hard not to ever text you but, yeah, just use slack, but it was but I.

Speaker 1 22:23

But then I also had, like the team wasn't. It was just so hard. I was figuring out my own business, so it was. But then I also had.

Speaker 2 22:28

like the team was on and off a mess. It was just so hard I was figuring out my own business.

Speaker 2 22:31

So it was just like, yeah, it was a transition, but we moved through it and I think there's going to be different phases of life where you have to allow each other to grow as well. I think that's part of it. Yeah, and you have to. I mean, as the parent, you have to grow as well. I think that's part of it. Yeah, and you have to. I mean, as the parent, you have to let them go Like you have. You have to let them go.

Speaker 2 22:56

You have to let them fly like fly out on their own and you're there if they need you, but you're not hovering over them and like carrying them or like holding their hand through a job interview or whatever you are. You know the support and guidance if they seek you out.

Speaker 1 23:13

That's another thing you have to learn like your opinion is not the end-all, be-all anymore yeah, like when you're becoming an adult, yeah, yeah it's like because you're trying to figure out what you're like I'm trying to figure out what my own opinion even is yeah, yeah so I think that's a?

Speaker 1 23:31

um, I just think that's a hard thing though it is, it's very hard because at the same time, like at least for me specifically, and I think you're similar in this way it's like sometimes I'm like just tell me what to do, but then it's like I don't like what you just told me what to do, so I'm gonna do something completely different and like that. I think like is a hard transition because when, when I was like a teenager, like I felt like it was like I. I was like anything you say is like a hundred percent yes, which is so crazy, which like is not that like, everything you say is wrong.

Speaker 1 24:06

Now, Like I don't think that, like, I value your opinion and your knowledge, but I also am like well, what do I also think about this? And like maybe somebody else also has a different opinion that I can like hear that perspective, like just being like more like let's see the rest of it.

Speaker 2 24:24

Yeah, because you don't want to be brainwashed, washed by someone's specific way of thinking about something yeah, which I don't think, yeah, you ever did that?

Navigating Coaching and Parenting Dynamics

Speaker 1 24:33

no, I don't think so either, but I just, yeah, making sure, yeah, no, no no, I also think that during that transition period, you did a really good job of like, almost like, letting us be like irritated or mad or upset with each other, because, like I think, sometimes, especially from like what we have experienced, like being upset or mad, like means the end or like it means like somebody's gonna leave, or it means like they're done with you, like, but like there was never a point where I was like, oh, she's not going to want to talk to me anymore.

Speaker 1 25:09

Like I was allowed to be like frustrated with a response you had and you were allowed to be mad at something that I said. Or like I was allowed to be upset and you were allowed to be upset and we would still figure it out at some point, even if it like took a little bit of like space before we talked.

Speaker 1 25:29

And normally that was like a week, even though that felt like a lot longer, but yeah, yeah, it was still like it was safe to like not have all the comfortable feelings yeah which I think is important in any I agree parent child relationship because you don't want to shame someone into um behaving a certain way yeah, it's like kind of like when kids misbehave and you're like go say sorry, like well, they don't really mean that they're sorry, they're just doing it because you said for them to be sorry. But like if you create the space for them to be pissed off, they're going to eventually come to the realization, hopefully, that they did something that wasn't the greatest, and then but then they'll have come to it on their own and then you've given them the space to do that and now they feel safe to be able to have their own feelings and for you to have your feelings and then come back together about it yeah, I think that's important.

Speaker 2 26:18

I think I think that's really important. Yeah, and I think I feel like where we are now. Like you have been one of my mindset coaches and I was thinking like how is this going to work, like how am I going to be able to open up and talk to her about things that I would talk to with a mindset person? But it's almost like and you're so professional that when it's almost like we go into a like you go into a role and I am no longer thinking of you as my daughter, which is weird.

Speaker 2 26:55

I've never been able to do that before, but now I'm like I don't think of you like that, I think of you as a person who is interested in in my wellness, my journey, and so I am your coach, yeah, yeah, and um, and I take your advice and I'm like, okay, that's that's great, like that's helpful, and um, so that's been, that's really helpful, yeah.

Speaker 1 27:24

Yeah, I definitely think that's really helpful. Yeah, yeah, I definitely think, and currently, like some of my clients like are my have, are my friends before yeah, they are my clients, but I, and like I have told them too, I'm like, whenever we go into this, like I want you to know, like I'm still always your friend yeah but like in this moment, in this scheduled meeting, that we have at this time on this day, like I am your coach, so like, and it doesn't come with like well, I'm gonna go back and be like well, she said this about this and I'm judging you like it's like I really am just like gonna be your coach in that moment and I still feel like your coach throughout.

Speaker 1 28:01

Like my feelings afterwards too, so I don't bring in like my emotional bias, which, like, is impossible yeah, all the time.

Reflecting on Mother-Daughter Dynamics

Speaker 2 28:10

But like most of the time you try not to do that. No, I that makes sense. Well, like I said before, you do it so well. So I appreciate that, and also I appreciate you. I appreciate you too. So do you think there's anything that we we can add?

Speaker 1 28:30

I don't know. I'm trying to think of like some silly, funny yeah things, the. The thing that comes to mind is something that I was sworn to secrecy about oh gosh yeah, I'm trying. What, what do you? What comes to mind when you think about like a just a funny moment between you and I?

Speaker 2 28:55

I have another one too um, I guess I'm all right with the. Yeah, that is a funny little rusty nail water.

Speaker 1 29:06

Um, we don't have to tell that yeah, I guess we can't um no, I'm not gonna say it, you will have to say it all right.

Speaker 2 29:14

So we went to this water park and there's like really long lines and I had to go pee and I didn't want to get out of the line. I mean, I'm a grown adult, I sound like a four-year-old like I didn't want to get out.

Speaker 1 29:31

We were almost there, we were almost. We were literally like it was like one flight more that we had to go.

Speaker 2 29:36

We had, like these raft things that were in front of us, so I just peed and um and I was like oh my gosh, someone peed like I was like, oh my gosh, someone like I was really loud in front of like all this crowd of people and your friend yeah, yeah, and your, your friend too. My friend was there too yeah, her mom, I don't remember that I do remember it, just being you, and your friend oh my gosh Okay.

Speaker 2 30:08

So I was like I am not confessing that. I peed in public right now I can't even believe I'm saying it out loud at all and I was like, well, it's probably just rusty nail water, yeah and I was like oh okay, that makes sense, like that was just like common. But it wasn't rusty nail water, I did pee.

Speaker 1 30:32

Yeah, oh my gosh. And then when did you tell me, Like when we got home?

Speaker 2 30:35

I don't know, I didn't tell you. I feel like I didn't tell you for a while because I was like what was I thinking? Like, what was I thinking? That is crazy, well, isn't that crazy.

Speaker 1 30:44

Well, you would have had to walk all the way back down. And also, like it's not like the bathrooms were close, no, they were very far away. You probably would have just had to pee like in the lazy river.

Speaker 2 30:52

I'm an adult, I would never pee in the lazy river. That's the funny part.

Speaker 1 30:56

You wouldn't, I would never.

Speaker 2 30:57

No, I would never. But I peed standing up waiting in line. Never peed in the lazy river, but you'd be just out in the open in front of a crowd. I don't, I don't know. I don't know what I was thinking. I thought that was insane, that that is not the thing that comes to my mind when I think of funny stories. I think of when we were naming jackson and we were like refrigerator, joyless and um tv joyless yeah, all these silly names tree drayless yeah just like random objects like camera drayless, microphone drayless.

Speaker 2 31:32

Like we would just like start looking around because we used to just be silly about and then like how we were gonna hurt each other.

Speaker 1 31:39

Remember like I'm gonna stab you with the pole yeah, yeah, we would talk about like like basically saying our intrusive thoughts out loud.

Speaker 2 31:47

Yeah, but this, these were extreme.

Speaker 1 31:49

I never thought I was going to hurt you with a Well no, yeah, but like you know how, sometimes, like when you're driving and you're just like I could just like crash into a tree right now, like obviously you wouldn't but, like it just comes into your head. Has that ever happened to you? Not really, oh yeah, your head has ever happened to you? Not really, oh yeah, I know it's not just me, because jacob said it happens to you and I think I'm just gonna crash into a tree no, or like I have thought something extreme like go off the edge of the skyway yeah, like stuff like that, like that's an intrusive thought, okay.

Speaker 1 32:31

So like whenever you haven't like, okay, this is not just me, I know this happens to people um but that's.

Speaker 1 32:39

I remember we were sitting in a walmart like parking lot, waiting for dad to get something, and we're like well, I guess that lamp post is just gonna fall right on us and crush us into smithereens, like it was like stuff like that that we would say oh my gosh, I do, I remember that, but I um, yeah, those are the things that come, that come to my mind one of my like this is like our the truest lorelei and rory moment of us that I can think of is when we visited FSU, when I thought I was going to go to college and we did a campus tour and it was just you and I Jackson stayed.

Speaker 1 33:25

He did, yeah, he stayed in the hotel, the crappy hotel we were staying in oh yeah, and it was just you and I and we were walking through like the dorms and stuff and the rest of the people on the tour like kept walking. But you were like go in, like I'm going to take a picture, and then you're like act like you're like go in, like I'm going to take a picture, and then you're like act like you're like doing something like you would do in your dorm and I was like, hmm, yeah, whatever. And then like after the fact I don't remember, I feel like we hadn't watched Gilmore Girls at that point. I can't remember if we did or not?

Speaker 1 34:01

But, like later on, I'm like that is exactly like when Rory and Lorelai go to I think it's Harvard.

Speaker 2 34:08

Harvard?

Speaker 1 34:09

yeah, it is, they go to Harvard and she like is like just walks into a dorm, she's like act like you're like on the computer.

Speaker 2 34:15

We definitely had been watching Gilmore Girls Really, because, I mean, you were like 18. So we didn't start watching it like later.

Speaker 1 34:24

Yeah.

Speaker 2 34:25

But that yeah, it was like that, and even the picture of you in the dorm room.

Speaker 1 34:29

Yeah, it like kind of looks like that moment.

Speaker 2 34:31

Yeah, no, that was um, that was fun that was fun because yeah, I mean it's all right that it didn't end up going in that direction.

Speaker 1 34:40

It would have if I would have gotten accepted yeah.

Speaker 2 34:43

But, I'm glad I didn't. Who knows, who knows, who knows? You know what? What would happen? Yeah, um, I think the other thing that made always made me think of them, of lorelei and rory, I mean, they kind of grew up together. I don't really feel necessarily because she was so young. So young, yeah, I wasn't so young yeah, um, what was I 29, so it wasn't like a super young mom, but so I didn't feel like we grew up together. I definitely feel like things changed a lot.

Speaker 2 35:13

We grew through change yeah so that is how I could kind of connect to that and also just the way that they, like almost had a short hand with each other. Yeah, I feel like that with you.

Speaker 1 35:23

Yeah, like there's times around like I just feel like I can read your mind. Yeah, which like when I used to work with you. Yeah, like there's times around like I just feel like I can read your mind yeah which, like when I used to work with you in your classroom in the morning. Yeah, I really felt like that yeah because I was like, oh, I just know like what she's gonna need before you needed it.

Speaker 2 35:38

It was, you did, anticipated everything it was. It was like magic. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was fun. Yeah, all right, well, another day we'll share other stories and yeah, and we would love for you to ask us questions.

Speaker 1 35:58

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Speaker 2 36:09

Um, yeah, yeah all right, see you next week. Bye.