Mind Your Heart

Balancing Parenthood, Faith, and Finding Your Pink

Trina Deboree and Emily Renee Episode 7

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Ever wonder how to stay true to yourself while raising kids? Inspired by Lindsey Gurk's analogy of flamingos, we explore the idea of "getting your pink back" and why it’s essential for parents to maintain their identity and happiness. The conversation dives deep into the importance of pursuing your goals despite fear, embracing flexibility, and prioritizing self-care. Personal insights from our faith journeys reveal the importance of community, emotional openness, and honesty with God. Whether you're a parent or someone struggling to balance various roles, this episode has something to offer.

This episode wraps up with an interactive Q&A, providing listeners an opportunity to engage and seek free coaching advice! Tune in for a blend of insightful discussions and real-life stories that aim to make your journey a bit easier and more meaningful.

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Speaker 1:

Hey, welcome to Mind your Heart Podcast, your favorite corner of the internet where we chat about all things mental health. I'm Emily.

Speaker 2:

And I'm Trina. Together, we're like your real-life Lorelai and Rory Gilmore. Each week, we'll bring you real conversations about the world of mental health and we will peel back layers on topics like anxiety, depression and much more.

Speaker 1:

We're here to chat with you about the tough stuff, the everyday stuff and everything in between. So grab your emotional support water bottle I know we have ours. Find your comfiest chair or keep your eyes on the road and let's get into it. Are you ready, mom?

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. Join us as we mind our hearts and hopefully make minding yours a little easier.

Speaker 1:

Welcome back to Mind your Heart. I am your host, Emily.

Speaker 2:

And I am your host, trina Nice, and I had to clear my throat. And we have Daisy here.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, she just tilted her head. If you're watching on YouTube, then you get the pleasure of looking at my very cute puppy.

Speaker 2:

she's not a puppy she's a dog, but she's very sweet, all right. So today we are taking some questions from you. You, yep we're excited so we had a few people write some questions and we're going to respond to those. Um, it'll probably be a shorter episode, maybe, yeah, maybe, maybe, yeah, no promises yeah, so um well, first we'll start with our highs and lows.

Speaker 1:

We forgot to do that last episode so um, yeah, do you want me to go first or do you want to go first?

Speaker 1:

Um, you can go first, okay, um, so I'm gonna start with a low um, okay. So one thing that's been definitely a challenge is the strict eating that I've been doing on this health journey has been very hard. Um, in the beginning it was because it I'm doing what I'm doing was basically it was called an elimination diet to see which inflammatory like foods bothered my gut, but then when I found out three of the four bothered it, it felt really like frustrating, really like frustrating, and I feel like where I am now, I have learned very good discipline over this whole gut health journey, um, and I feel like I'm ready to just have the balance now, like I have been. So, um, it's been like a hundred percent not eating the things that are like hurting my gut, whereas, whereas, like, I think I have the ability to decide, like I can have this every once in a while and like I'll take, like having to go to the bathroom, an extra time like that be okay.

Speaker 1:

Um, and I think the strictness of it has been.

Speaker 1:

There's definitely some points where it's been a little triggering like it's been like, okay, well, that feels like I can't have joy with this, like I have to just eat it because it's good for me. Yeah, and I don't want that. That's never my goal or mentality with eating in general. So, um, that's been hard, but I I actually have. Well, after you've listened to this, I will have already had my last session with my gut health coach, who I love and is really great and very, very talented. But I am like I feel ready, like I feel like I'm ready, like I have the tools, like I've done a lot of work and I will continue to do that, but I'm ready to like make the choices of the 80-20 and not just be like all the way on the other extreme. Yeah, so that's been a low, my high. Well, one thing Okay, this is so crazy.

Speaker 1:

I'm super late to the game in this, but I finished the show you. Oh, it was so wild, it was crazy, and the ending had me like I was speechless. I was just like I could not believe the ending. So that was really good. And I also finished my book that I was reading, twisted hate, um, which is in a series like the twisted series. Um, there's one more that I have to read, but it was good. It ended really good. So those were my. That's. My high was finishing those things, all right.

Speaker 2:

Well, that's good, all right, so, my well, first of all, let me just say that I think that I'm very proud of you for doing this gut health journey.

Speaker 2:

That is really remarkable thank you and also like so beneficial, so yeah, and it's definitely like your skin is, like I said, glowing. So thank you, yeah, um, all right, I think that milo oh, my goodness, by the time this episode comes out, jackson will be back in school. Um, but at the time of this, it was just a little bit ago I helped him move out of his apartment into a storage unit and then he came home and I brought home 13 bags of laundry. That's crazy, it was crazy. It took days I I mean days of me doing the laundry, yeah, non-stop. It was so brutal. Um, yeah, so that was definitely low. I did not enjoy that, yeah and now I'm like don't even touch the bags of laundry like I'm not you're.

Speaker 2:

You're only allowed to use the clothes that you have you're not allowed to wear any of these, because these are all going to be put away. Yeah, um, so I've got like a mound of laundry, like I've got shirt like over 60 more than that. Shirts on the like over the stair thing, yeah, and then all these bags of things to go about. It's just, oh okay, august 16th, so if you're listening to this after that, then you yeah you will already it'll.

Speaker 1:

All the laundry will be done and gone, thank goodness what was your high, my high, I know.

Speaker 2:

Um, my, I'm gonna say my high. I've just been having some really good snuggles with kobe, like he's just been. He's such a good snuggle dog. He's so snuggly at night when we're going to sleep and he's so snuggly in the morning and I love like sometimes he tries to wake me up with his paw and he's just like pause me. And I this morning I was like no, and I rolled over further away from him and it gave me another half an hour to sleep and then, um, but then he's like it's a slow little, he paused me, yeah, then he like comes over and licks my mouth and then he comes over and lays on me and it's like I don't know, he's just so sweet yeah daisy's a good color too you're the best color yes, daisy is a good color all right, all right.

Speaker 1:

So, uh, the first question is kind of like it's a it's a question for me and for you, from like a different perspective. So somebody said um, for me to answer what advice would I give to a parent, and then for you to answer what advice would you give to an adult child. All right, got it.

Speaker 2:

Okay, you go first, then Okay. So what advice would I give to an adult child? I would say while you're figuring yourself out, give yourself a lot of grace. Give yourself a lot of grace and know that you're not always going to get it right and that you're going to go through ups and downs, and that this is all about a time of figuring life out and you get to make mistakes, and that that that's okay. You're going to learn from those mistakes, you're going to pick yourself back up.

Speaker 2:

Here's the thing that I think is really important, and that is, even though you don't want help from your mom or your dad or whoever, um, just call your mom every so often and tell her that you love her, and just let her know that that you still love her, even though the role has changed and the relationship is different. She still just needs to remember every once in a while that you love her. But, um, yeah, and also, I just think you know, if you're scared, do it scared. Do it scared. Um, this is this is the time to do it. This is the time to really reach out there and figure out what you want and figure out, and if it doesn't work, you do something different, you're like I'm going to try something else and you don't have to stay stuck on your initial plan. Like, don't be afraid to deviate.

Speaker 2:

You had an original plan. You thought it was going to work out this one specific way. Doesn't work out that way, it all right. Make an adjustment, be okay with being making a pivot and going off of your plan. Your plan doesn't have to be exactly the way that you decided. You're allowed to be you.

Speaker 1:

And I think that it's really important that you remember that you are your own being with and without kids, and that, while you're a parent now and you you're doing doing the mom or dad or guardian thing, I think like it's important for you to take care of yourself, as not only as an example for the people that you're caring for, but also so that you can live a life that makes you happy, because it's I don't know, obviously I'm not a parent, but I know that I've seen people that I love and care about, like you, go all into being a parent and that's so wonderful and I love that, but you also want to make sure that your life is your life and that you get to to be you and, um, one person that I've heard talk about this, um, I think her last name is Girk Lindsay Girk, I believe, is her name. She has kids and she has, like this saying that's like get your pink back, and it's talking about how, when it's talking about flamingos.

Speaker 1:

So flamingos when they have babies they like lose, like their shade of pink. And I don't know the whole, like all the details, but what I'm thinking is that, like the babies I think are born pink.

Speaker 2:

And so, like you give that to like to like what you feel, like you're off yeah and um, they literally suck you dry of nutrients.

Speaker 1:

Yeah and she was like, but like you have to, over time, allow yourself to get your pink back and to like be you and like still be you with kids too, I like that. So I would say, like that would be my advice, and also to I don't know just be honest and have fun with you and your kids.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that was good.

Speaker 1:

All right, thanks, all right. The next question is kind of a blanket question Tell us about your faith journey. I don't know how to do that in a short way. I did talk a little bit about my faith journey on a YouTube video for Centerpoint Church About how it's been up and down, but I mean like where I'm at now. I mean like I've been baptized, like as an adult, um, and I am a Jesus follower and I think, like community is a really big part of that um, but it is not easy by any means and it's not something that like I say like, oh, yeah, like just just go and do it, just read the bible and you're good, like it's been, it's been, it really has been a journey like.

Speaker 1:

I mean I, from a young age, like I feel like I've always believed in god and jesus and the Holy Spirit, but I think there's been times where I've been mad at God, which is something that I mean, especially as a kid.

Speaker 1:

You don't think you're allowed to be. But once I realized I'm allowed to have any emotions with God, that is really when my relationship with him like grew the most, because that's the most honest that you can be. Um, so, yeah, then I I mean, it was a struggle. There was times where I felt like I didn't have him when I, you know he was still there. Just I was just angry and lost, um, and it was very hard when I was going through like the worst part of my mental health. But when I really like leaned into the trust and like being held by, like his grace, is when, like, I feel, I feel good about where I am now. I know it won't always be easy, but it's just like learning more and allowing myself to be open and receive what the gifts that he's already given us. So that's like a very short overview.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I just remember who introduced me to God, which was my grandmother. That's what I remember. Maybe my mom, I don't know, but I remember my grandmother and I feel like it was an easy thing for me to accept, because I already felt him. I already felt like he was there. Um, I felt like I could talk to him, I felt like I could cry to him. I felt like I just felt like I felt him there.

Speaker 2:

So, it felt like it was something that I believed and we went to church. I guess we went to church. I have like have off and on relationship with church. To tell you the truth, that's it. Yeah, I feel like that's valid. There's been some churches where I have felt like like I've just walked right into God's home. And there's been other churches where I have felt like do they even want people to be here?

Speaker 2:

Um and I also have. I do have a difficult time with organized religion, I think just because, especially right now, in the world, the representation of a Christian is not in the best light, yeah, and so I'm really struggling with that.

Speaker 1:

That's one thing I really like about what Pastor Bryant actually has talked about. He's like Christianity overall is hard because there's so many people who are making public poor views of that of being a christian. Yeah, but he was like when you call yourself a jesus follower, like there's no confusing it, like you follow what jesus would do, which is unconditional love, and like acceptance and grace based on constantly based on love, yeah, acceptance and um.

Speaker 2:

And so I listen to a church online and he says the same thing yeah and um. I think he's so great.

Speaker 1:

I love him and shout out to erwin erwin, yeah, and he just wrote a new book and I tried to buy it and the link didn't work.

Speaker 2:

And then I was talking to aaron, we were having a message on instagram.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's cool and I was like aaron, I go.

Speaker 2:

Aaron, are you erwin? I go you're. I know who you are. You're Irwin's son. I met you in person and I went on and on and he was like yeah, he goes. He's like not everybody knows. You know what I was?

Speaker 1:

like.

Speaker 2:

This is Aaron. I was so excited, but anyway, yeah, and then we never ended up figuring it out. So I still haven't bought the book, but I want to, because it's like talking about different ways you communicate. It seems really cool and there's an assessment that you can purchase as well, oh, that's cool yeah. I thought it sounded really cool Anyway. So I really I appreciate him because he like goes like deeply into things and also he is like as far as like philosophy he's also a study of philosophy.

Speaker 2:

So, I think that adds a different element that I really enjoy. So I really like that. But I don't want to be confused with people that are against philosophy things and are against people and are hurtful and hateful and have terrible things to say. And I don't want to be confused because that's not what I believe and not at all not even a little bit.

Speaker 2:

And so I definitely struggle with that. But I have definitely felt like different emotions with God, and anger being one for sure, and I remember my friend telling me that it was okay, that God wanted us to be angry because we were feeling something and we were in a relationship, and that we were in a relationship with him. And so in a relationship like we talked about, you're going to have conflict, and so I really appreciated that, and one of the lowest times I had with God was when I was struggling to get pregnant with Jackson and I was really mad at him.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And you know, sometimes we don't get what we want.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And I prayed this verse every single day and I don't even remember what it was which I should know, and I believed, I'm like, I was like I'm just gonna trust in the plan and if it I mean I, it wasn't like I just sat back, I'm not gonna do anything else yeah, um, I we also, you know, I had tests done and stuff like that. We were considering different things and so that was part of it. But I did find myself recently like I feel like I'm always trying to read something that helps me better understand the Bible and I'm, or I'm trying to like, I feel like every day, like that's a part of my like routine for me. And and then I, but I was listening, I've been reading a lot of kristen hannah books which are so intense and it's a historical fiction, and I was listening to this, um, this book, the four winds, and there it was about.

Speaker 2:

During the great depression and also these, these terrible, um, wind storms were taking place in like Oklahoma, kansas, texas. People were like dying of dust, pneumonia. It was really terrible. It was a really terrible time in history and these people traveled, they had to get out because they, you know, they were sick and then they were fleeing to California and people it was the way that people were treating them was terrible. Anyway, I was like listening to the book and then, and I was listening to this misery and I and I'm like, and I, I was like, where were you? Like I, I said that out loud and I was like, and then I felt so guilty and I and I'm like, but I did feel that way for a few minutes, I'm like, where were you at this time, because this was so terrible, and but I'm like, and then I remember that that it's not necessarily the way that it works and that God may very well, or was I'm sure with people during that whole time that we just, you know, you can't see every single bit of it and that you don't always get to see every single bit of it. That's the other part. You don't always get to know the reasons for things.

Speaker 2:

Also, I think that that time period it taught us a lot. Unfortunately, we didn't learn the lessons Like. It taught us a lot about how to take care of the land and what things that we were doing wrong to the land and the land was basically rebelling. Um, yet we still, yeah, and and there's so many things I could say about that, but anyway, so, um, I do feel like I feel connected to god. I definitely feel god, um, and I I I've, you know, believe in jesus, but I, um, but, like I said, like I have a different perspective, like I have a friend who's very sort of like hardcore, like well, it says this, but he's like really stuck on the Old Testament and I'm, like you know, the New Testament came after that, right, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Like Jesus, came to save us.

Speaker 1:

There's also the thing with like quoting scripture.

Speaker 2:

Out of context.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there has to be context, like there needs to be like who was this written to? Was it a letter? Was it like what was it? What time period? What was going on in that time frame?

Speaker 2:

So there's like things you have to take into consideration, and there's also a variety of different thoughts around it. Yeah and so, yeah, yeah, that's my answer.

Speaker 1:

Nice, all right. Well, the last question we have. It says talk about sex and how to talk to your kids about the birds and the bees talking about sex life.

Speaker 2:

Oh, are we supposed to talk about our sex life to um kids? No, talking about sex life and how to talk to your kids about the birds and the bees. So like.

Speaker 1:

I think it's just asking like to talk about like having a sex life in general.

Speaker 2:

Okay, and then? So my sex life is non-existent.

Speaker 1:

Is that what we're supposed to talk about? I don't know. I didn't ask for clarity from this person, all right. But I think the other part of the question is how to talk to your kids about the birds and the bees. I don't really know. I mean, we did talk about sex in the last episode, so if you want to hear more of like I don't know how to I think we think it's an important important, yeah part of a relationship.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, um, agree, but some of us don't remember what that is, so I don't know if there's a lot to say yeah, I mean like yeah, I feel like I need a more specific question.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, okay than that, but what about?

Speaker 2:

talking to your kids about the birds and the bees. Okay, well, you were like I don't want to know that. Well, the reason you told me is because I had asked how puppies were made and I said do you really want me to tell you?

Speaker 1:

And you, said yes, yeah, because I couldn't.

Speaker 2:

But you were getting ready to go into sixth grade.

Speaker 1:

So I felt like, no, no, I was in fourth grade.

Speaker 2:

Really Mm-hmm. Okay, well, you were closer to sixth grade.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was like the end of fourth grade.

Speaker 2:

Because I remember Dylann.

Speaker 1:

She knew in fourth grade too, and I was like, do you know what sex is? And she was like, yes, isn't it crazy?

Speaker 2:

We had talked about how we were like, oh my gosh, I thought it was like you just are open and honest with your kids about it and you just describe it and talk about it and share what it means and whatever, and that's what I tried to do.

Speaker 1:

But then you were, like, felt like you were scarred for life I think honestly, I think the reason I felt like that is because the idea of like dad and you felt like wrong to me. So I think it felt like something that like I was like well, that doesn't seem right, like because that like didn't sound like loving with him and um, so sorry about that.

Speaker 2:

That's why I said that we need to get rid of daisy um, but yeah, so I think that was that for me.

Speaker 1:

I also feel like I could feel how uncomfortable you were, golly really yeah, well, okay.

Speaker 2:

So how not to do it is to give your child a visual image of you having sex with their dad.

Speaker 1:

It's different when you're in a loving relationship. You guys were not happy. You were very unhappy at that time.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And so imagining, like, thinking about like it seemed like a not good thing, Like I feel, like I, like I wasn't saying that it wasn't a good no, I know but I just feel like that is what I was thinking, because I'm like well, they don't really like each other, and if they do that, then like this it just seemed not good.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't know what to say to that because, yeah, I mean, obviously I didn't want you. I just wanted you to know that it was an expression of love and that it was meant to be pleasurable for both people and that it was an important part of a relationship, as a connection and um, and that there was nothing wrong with it yeah and um. So I, I don't know. I mean I guess I did it wrong. I mean, no, I don't think there's.

Speaker 1:

I don't really honestly think that there is a right or wrong.

Speaker 2:

I feel like it's just up to the parent and I kind of feel like you have to also gauge the child, like when are they ready? Maybe I couldn't didn't have to answer that when you were 10, maybe because you were like a really innocent child, like maybe I should just wait at another year. Um, I felt like I needed to tell you before I went to middle school because that's you were going to hear it in such a different way yeah, yeah, like a graphic way so.

Speaker 2:

I definitely felt like that was important and maybe you're right, it wasn't the best timing.

Speaker 1:

I also think that was a, I feel like it was. Maybe it was sixth grade. It was like fifth or sixth grade or something around that time that I went to a purity conference.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah. And that like really made me think that I definitely did tell you that, that that was the way that the, that the church felt, yeah, but that I thought that, um, my thing was that being in a loving, loving relationship, like whether you were married or not married yeah, but I think like, even at least for me, like whenever I have kids, I don't you don't have to be in a relationship.

Speaker 1:

I'm like you can. As long as it's consensual, yeah, for both parties.

Speaker 2:

Consensual is a big part.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I mean that's the most important part. Yeah, but I think I think you're right. I don't think I. I'm not comfortable talking about sex.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So me talking to someone else about sex is, and not because I don't like sex, Um, I don't remember. I don't even remember now. Like that's what it feels like, yeah, Like it feels like I remember liking sex, but I also remember not liking it and feeling like I had to do it just for the person to be nice to me and that's not a reason to have sex ever. Yeah and um. And so me talking about sex and talking about being in a loving relationship and you're right, I wasn't so like how do you express that to your child? What I didn't want you to feel was ashamed of yourself or any shame around sex. Yeah, and I didn't want that for either one of you. And telling Jackson was a lot easier. So I will say that was a lot easier. But did you tell Jackson? You were in the car too.

Speaker 1:

I was.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yep, it was the three of us, and so you chimed in with your knowledge.

Speaker 1:

I mean, you didn't have sex. How old was I?

Speaker 2:

I mean, you hadn't had sex, you were still a teenager. But you, I don't know, maybe that was why it was easier, because there was another person there. How old was Jackson, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Maybe he was in fifth grade or fourth grade, so how old would that make him? Like 10, 11, so I was like 15, 14, 15, yeah something like that all right so I just remember he was like all right um yeah

Speaker 2:

I don't know. I remember how I got told and it was with a book and Nanny sat us down with this book and went over the parts and then she left out, like she's like, but we're not going to talk about this part. Well, of course I want to talk about that part. Yeah, which is what part? Did you not want to talk about Wet dreams? She didn't want to talk about wet dreams. And I remember sneaking the chair from the dining room and climbing up because you put it on top of the refrigerator. Yeah, it was like the forbidden book?

Speaker 2:

yes, that's what I was getting ready to say.

Speaker 1:

I was just reading that in the.

Speaker 2:

I wasn't reading, I wasn't reading um in the, that in the bible, I was reading something that got brought up about how oh, everyone was talking about it in a book, um, about how we didn't take responsibility, how the how Adam blames it on Eve and immediately blames it on Eve, and then Eve immediately blames it on the serpent. And so it was like, oh my gosh, we didn't take responsibility. And first of all, adam hello, like so that was a red flag right from the start. And but I'm like how often does that happen, where you focus on the one thing you can't have, or you focus on all the nice things they said about you, but they said one little thing and you're like that's the thing yeah and so it just made me think about that, and so this reminded me of that.

Speaker 2:

We can. I'm going to show all the rest of this book. I'm not going to show this one part. And then what do I want to see?

Speaker 2:

that one part, yeah so I feel like that has come down from generation to generation, generation, and so I snuck up there and then I was like ew, and I remember thinking that was. I remember thinking that was gross. I was like this is disgusting, this is how they wake up to this and, um, it's not disgusting, it's just a normal part of life. Yeah, I, I don't remember ever talking about it again. I didn't have this conversation with dex, thank goodness we didn't. Yeah, so I never. I don't think I've ever talked to a man about this. So, yeah, all right, I was reading a book and he was the guy was taught, the kid was telling the friend about it and I was like, huh, interesting. So you know something you can't help, it's just a part of life, and uh, so I thought that was interesting, but anyway, um, so I probably was the wrong person to talk about. I mean, I have a lot. I have a lot of work to do when it comes to, like, being open and honest and having conversations about sex well, that's like a.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I just we've talked about this like this is that's like a generational, yeah, like the way that you think about it is but not all my friends were like that.

Speaker 2:

I feel like I was definitely more prudish, yeah, but nanny was, is and grandy but she's not. She wasn't, nanny would be happily talk about sex I don't think that's true maybe not now, but in the past, and I'm like don't tell me.

Speaker 1:

I feel like I was like gonna close my ears, yeah, um, but she was also in relationships where she wasn't necessarily happy, so like that could have bled on to like your ideals around the topic.

Speaker 2:

Like I think there's things she always seemed like she was fine with it and like liked to have sex, like I, that's what always seemed like she was fine with it and like liked to have sex, like that's what I pictured. Like I mean not pictured, but like yeah, no, I get what you're saying and I am like, oh okay, this is even I feel uncomfortable right now, I'm sorry. So, yeah, I don't think we can stop talking about it. What would you?

Speaker 1:

say um, I mean, I think I would just yeah, I think I would focus mostly on consent.

Speaker 1:

Talk about the like anatomy safety part of it, yeah, the safety of it, um, and just making sure, like that, if they had any like questions, that I would be open to answering them.

Speaker 1:

And I did see this one video a little while ago that was talking about like different reasons that people have sex, um, and like explaining that to like a little bit of an older kid.

Speaker 1:

Like, um, like how, like there's sex for a baby, like there's sex for love, there's sex for passion, there's sex for a baby, like there's sex for love, there's sex for passion, like there's like just sex for pleasure, like there's different reasons for it, and then like there's even like sex workers, like that being something that like is that they know. And so I feel like being really open and honest and just allowing them to have like curiosities and being like, yeah, well, this, this exists, like this is, and then also being like I think pornography is unrealistic, like explaining that kind of stuff so that way they can have like the full just understanding and then be able to make their own opinion, yeah, about it, because, like, ultimately, it's their body and they can decide, and I just want to be able to provide like the resources for them to feel safe and comforted and somewhere that they can talk about it with yeah, I think that's good I think that's important.

Speaker 1:

So, yeah, that's all our questions. So if you have questions for us, there is a link in the description where you can ask us questions there and we can give you some free coaching advice, or you can DM us or comment on our reels or YouTube video, just all the things. So we'd love to keep answering your questions and your thoughts and comments concerns all the good stuff. So, yeah, thanks for listening this week. We hope you felt a little uncomfortable. No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2:

We'll be back and mind your heart on Mondays.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

All right, bye, bye.

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