Mind Your Heart
Welcome to "Mind Your Heart," this cozy corner of the internet where Trina Deboree and Emily Reneé —your real-life Lorelei and Rory Gilmore duo—come together each week to chat about everything from mental health to the daily nuances of life. In each episode, we peel back the layers of topics like anxiety, depression, PTSD, and eating disorders with warmth, understanding, and a touch of humor (because otherwise, this just sounds depressing)!
Trina, an educator turned entrepreneur and mental health advocate, joins forces with her daughter Emily, a mental health coach and anorexia survivor, to share their journeys and insights in a way that feels like a heart-to-heart with old friends. The goal? To spark conversations that truly matter and to create a space where laughter meets healing.
Let's navigate the ups and downs of mental health together, making each day brighter and each challenge a little lighter. Grab your emotional support water bottle, put in your headphones, and join us while we mind our hearts for chats that comfort and inspire.
Mind Your Heart
Family Vacations Are Can be... Interesting.
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Can family vacations truly boost your mental health, or are they just another source of stress? Join us on the Mind Your Heart Podcast as Emily and Trina navigate the complex emotions tied to family travel. From childhood adventures in Texas and England to trips to Hawaii, Colorado, and Quebec, we explore how stepping out of our comfort zones can be both rewarding and challenging. Whether you're reminiscing about past vacations or planning future getaways, this episode uncovers the therapeutic benefits and hidden stressors of family trips.
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Hey, welcome to Mind your Heart Podcast, your favorite corner of the internet where we chat about all things mental health.
Speaker 2:I'm Emily and I'm Trina. Together, we're like your real-life Lorelai and Rory Gilmore. Each week, we'll bring you real conversations about the world of mental health and we will peel back layers on topics like anxiety, depression and much more.
Speaker 1:We're here to chat with you about the tough stuff, the everyday stuff and everything in between. So grab your emotional support water bottle I know we have ours. Find your comfiest chair or keep your eyes on the road and let's get into it. Are you ready, mom?
Speaker 2:Absolutely. Join us as we mind our hearts and hopefully make minding yours a little easier.
Speaker 1:Welcome back, welcome to Mind your Heart. Welcome to Mind your Heart. Happy Monday, or any day that you're listening to this.
Speaker 2:Mondays are just good, because Mondays are good to mind your heart, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm.
Speaker 1:Trina. I'm Emily. How's it going?
Speaker 2:It's going all right. So we often batch record our episodes. Often we always batch record, we always do, yeah, and then so last week was a hard one, yeah, yeah. So it was a difficult one and I know I have a friend who's like I can't listen because my mental health is already like shaken and I'm like okay, but yeah, I don't think they're all hard and heavy.
Speaker 1:No, I don't think so either. Yeah, but that stinks for that person.
Speaker 2:I think so too. I think, yeah, I think so too, but maybe she will listen in to this batch.
Speaker 2:Well, she can skip last week, not last week, maybe not last week, yeah so anyway, um, so this week we're going to be talking about family vacations and the just all the array of things that happen on family vacations. So I've been recently in the last 10 years. First of all, I didn't even know. I always really wanted to travel and go places. I felt like I would get frustrated with your dad who wanted to go to Orlando, disney every single vacation, and I wanted to go other places. And then we went one other place, we went to Myrtle Beach, and I hated that. So I was like I wanted to go. I think he goes now Like he travels now. Oh really, and I'm like, doesn't he like?
Speaker 1:not like to fly? Isn't that like a thing?
Speaker 2:I don't know, but I think he's fine with it. He hadn't flown a lot Like one of his first. Actually, his first flying thing was to come help me in Atlanta when I was moving from Atlanta back to Brighton. And yeah, but he, yeah, I guess he flies now Like a lot. I know I was surprised, so anyway.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I guess he flies now like a lot. I know I was surprised, so anyway, the only reason I say that is because I remember when he it would have to be like it was very rare that he had to do something for work like that. But like I remember he had to fly for work and he had like told maybe it was me or all of us that he was like feeling a little bit nervous about flying in particular. I don't know if that's.
Speaker 2:You could be totally right. I just don't remember that. I mean, maybe that's changed, I don't know, I think it has, because you seemed like you were spying with it, but anyway, so I didn't do a lot of traveling. I mean, we traveled when I was little because I was born in Texas, and then we went to England and I lived in England and then we flew to Florida and then we went to England and we lived in. I lived in England and then we flew to Florida and then we went to North Dakota.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I flew.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I traveled and that, but not, I mean, I don't remember that I was little. Yeah, um, I know, when I lived in Kansas, wichita um, I hated it.
Speaker 1:I was like I don't like Kansas.
Speaker 2:It's flat and boring and I don't like Kansas. It's flat and boring and I don't. And if you're from Kansas, I'm so sorry I don't. Yeah, I just didn't want to. And when we went to the Kansas, you know, for his celebration of life, I just it's not like scenery that. I know it's not my preferred state for sure.
Speaker 1:So, People there were nice. Yeah, yeah, that's true people were very people there are nice. They were very nice. The actual state itself is not a practice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, um. But then I started traveling. When I got divorced, and mainly because of my brother, um, and my um and his wife at the time and, um, yeah, mainly because of them I would. They would fly me to california and and New York and we went to Hawaii and that was unbelievably beautiful. So I felt like I felt really grateful for those experiences. Oh, my God, hawaii, hawaii is so beautiful, it's like another world.
Speaker 1:It feels like another world. It's just Well. They like really care about the earth. They do.
Speaker 2:They're very strict about, like, what you can bring in and out of Hawaii. Yeah, but it was, um, as they should be, as they should be, yeah, it was very beautiful. And then, um, and then, when I like, left school system and I went to Colorado, and that was really beautiful as well, and so I feel very lucky to have been to lots of places in the last 10 years yeah um, lots of really pretty like all over new england.
Speaker 2:That's really beautiful and the fall foliage and all that so so like, and then I've gone, you know, to quebec, quebec, quebec city, with my mom and steve, and that was really fun and I'm getting ready to go to mexico. Actually, when this comes out, it'll be like just a couple weeks away yeah yep, so I'm excited about that.
Speaker 2:I have been to mexico before on my senior cruise and, um, like you're seeing, like for college or for high school, high school, oh yeah, I mean they don't do that anymore. Can you even imagine? Uh, I mean we had, we caused enough mayhem in the 90s but, um, but now it would be like yeah, I know I'm like 18 year olds on a cruise to mexico by yeah.
Speaker 2:And it's a drink you can drink, yeah, so it was, oh my goodness, yeah, we made a mess. And then, yeah, lots of exciting things on the horizon and then, like Ireland, so I've been like planning a trip for Ireland and I'm so excited about that. Yeah, so, so excited. There's so many things I want to see in Ireland and yeah, so, anyway, so we so traveling has been a really special thing. Well, this past summer we had a family vacation Actually, we've had a few because we went to Baltimore for Thanksgiving last year I thought that was fun, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, last year I thought that was fun, yeah, I agree. Yeah, I, yes, I agree. But I also was like I wished that we had a car, Jake and I had a car.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because we at the time were not old enough to rent a car or like be on any rental car, so it felt like it was like we either had to be where everybody else was or in our room and that was like not yeah, because you feel kind of trapped.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, because it wasn't like a uber friendly no area, because we were kind of out in the country.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and it was so pretty. The place that we stayed was beautiful and like it was nice to like walk around there, but it's like there's only so much that you're gonna do like yeah, you know. So, um, yeah, I think that was the part that we were both like hmm, like we, we wanted some time to just like do stuff, the two of us.
Speaker 2:But we didn't really get to yeah so well, I think that's part of what we probably should talk about with family vacations, and that is like having some boundaries, like setting some boundaries yep, because it can really be easy to not set your boundary, then then get overwhelmed. Yeah, um, I've realized some things for myself that I too need, like time by myself. I need time by myself and I I've gotten so much worse at this. Actually, I was just telling nanny this the other day. I'm like I can't be all together in that, in one house, like I've yeah it's it's rough, I need a separate space.
Speaker 2:You don't have any space that's like just to you.
Speaker 1:I thought that about this past. I honestly okay. So this past time that we went to the beach house, I feel like was the most cramped, because when we stayed in the house last summer so pretty it was like three different floors basically yeah um, so like people were separated more, yeah, and so it didn't feel like as bad to like like.
Speaker 1:I would go back to that house like I would be fine saying that, because you and me and jake were like in those rooms on the mid-level and then nanny and steve I feel like they were either like down or like across the house and then I thought they were just right across the hall.
Speaker 2:Maybe you're right though I I don't have a good picture of where they were and then when dex and amelia came, they were all upstairs yeah, so it was like more separated yeah you were physically able to separate.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because there was not just the main floor, there was also upstairs, and then there was one way downstairs too yeah, it wasn't like a full like floor, but it was like the the floor of like the pool, and then it was like just like kind of a living area plus, it was a huge area, had a ping pong table like a lot of yeah, although I liked being on the canal because then there was paddle boarding and things yeah, but um, but yeah, I think I think you need a little more, I think it needs to be a little more space, because even that house, that very first house, the pink house, where, um, there was the ground floor and then there was an upstairs where I was, in the laundry room, and then there was another layer yeah where you and jake stayed.
Speaker 2:I don't know if you stayed. I don't think so. You might not have stayed, but you could have stayed and there was another level of the house so I think you're right. I think the like a more spacious might be. I just think also like being alone for so long. Um, like I used to get so mad at your dad when I couldn't talk to him in the morning, like he was, like he had to do his, have his like ritual and his.
Speaker 2:That's how I am yeah and that's how I am now too. Yeah, I'm like I can't talk yet I haven't had my coffee, I haven't gotten situated. I didn't know he was like that yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're very similar in like schedule wise. Yeah, just also interesting, yeah, because, like, I can be up late. Yeah, he used to do that. Yeah, and then he would like he can't now he can't he has to go to bed, yeah well, I don't know, because jake doesn't like to go to bed late, like he wants to be in bed like at like 10 yeah, and I'm like, all right, that's funny.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it's um, yeah, so I I like to, and I also like to wind down in the evening and, like I like to go to my room pretty early like 7, 30 and I like to read and and I'm like done. I'm like done with talking with everybody. I don't want to talk anymore like I don't yeah, where I'm like that's like my time yeah to thrive.
Speaker 1:I'm like now I want to do something yeah like, because it's like that's the thing. That's difficult when we are on a family vacation is that like you and the nanny and steve are like ready to do stuff by noon and I'm like, yeah, I'm like I'm just getting up, yeah like good morning and we're like come on, emily, what time are you gonna wake up?
Speaker 2:yeah?
Speaker 1:yeah, because to me I also think it's interesting to know, like, how people view vacation that's a good point, good point because I am a vacationer, that I don't want all this structure. Yeah, I'm like, I want to know that I can sleep to whenever the hell I want.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and nobody's gonna care, and we'll figure out where we want to eat based on what I'm feeling like I want to eat, and we'll do something spontaneous if we want to, and if not, then we'll just be lazy and do nothing yeah because to me like doing stuff, feels like work yeah whereas, like I want a vacation where, like, I don't have to do stuff yeah and then, if I want to like, I just choose to yeah like I don't feel like I need to have like the structure, whereas some people are like they want to jam pack it full of activities. Yeah, and I, that is, I don't like that, no, it's stressful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I think. And um, nanny steve definitely like activities. They are are an activity well, and then the thing also. That's hard when you're trying to get reservations.
Speaker 1:So I understand, but then I'm like just go somewhere that doesn't need a reservation, like, or just like it's really hard in some spots plan ahead, yeah, but that's because you guys are very strict with the time that you eat. That's true, because for me, I'm like, okay, well, let's say we don't have a reservation, like if jake and I are on vacation, we're like okay, we don't have a reservation somewhere, um, and we want to go eat somewhere, like kind of nice, and I'm like realizing this at like five and I'm like, okay, well then, like we'll go at five and then like, if we have to wait for like 30 to 45 minutes, it's not a big deal, because, like we would be fine eating at like 7 30, yeah, so like you're right well, we're a lot more flexible.
Speaker 2:You are on the timing and I well, not. In the morning you're not flexible. No, because I don't want to wake up early.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, no, I don't want to wake up early, so I'm more I mean like flexible on like when we're gonna have the meals, like I'm like it doesn't have to be at the same time every day yeah, and I'm pretty scheduled not pretty, I am scheduled, yeah, um, yeah, because, yeah, my blood sugar gets low and you saw that happened earlier today and, um, I get grouchy and shaky sometimes and so, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I guess I think I make it difficult in that sense where I'm like I need to eat by 5 or 5 30, and no, it's not 5, 30, it's 5 it's 5.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we need to be, have already ordered and like the food's about to come and it's gonna be five o'clock, all right, yeah, so because if it's 5, 30 be five o'clock, all right, yeah, so if it's 530, then you're getting into danger zone. I can go eat by myself, I'm fine with that and we don't mind eating Like that's the thing I don't mind eating early.
Speaker 1:But then, like Jake and I are like it's like nine o'clock and now we're hungry again yeah, because like five o'clock is so early for us yeah because I mean, like even on a weekday, like I'm not even done working yeah at five, yeah, so that's like a late lunch, yeah oh gosh, yeah so.
Speaker 2:Okay. So having boundaries and understanding people's perspective of vacation, because I was thinking about that even, and also some like I need some alone time, like I definitely need to like plan something by myself and not worry. That's why the trip to New England, the family vacation to New England, was the best, because, um well, steve and Nanny had plans with some friends one of the days so I didn't see him the whole day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I, um, you know, I went horseback riding and then I, you know, found my own place to eat and, yeah, I think we might have met for dinner and that was like perfect. Yeah, so, um, that was good and yeah, so I really enjoyed that. But, like, even looking at the plans for Ireland, I like found, like figured out places to go and I actually posted on Facebook and someone's like, oh my gosh, I couldn't do this in two weeks, and, um, and I was like, oh wow, okay, but I, there's so many things I want to see. Yeah, so I'm like it does feel more like active, but it's also like hiking and, um, riding a bike or whatever, um, it's outside. You're like when, if you're going to the cliffs of more or whatever you're, you're not gonna like sit there pondering for hours like you know what you're gonna, you're gonna see it, you're gonna take pictures, you're gonna, you might sit there for a little while yeah, I mean I want to, and then um, but then it's like all right, so what do you?
Speaker 2:what are we gonna do now? And um, so it's like this one feels like I need to like come back a little bit, because I don't want it to be, because I like the same thing as you. Like I'm more like when it feels over packed. Every day there's an activity that really stresses me out and I need to know that there's going to be some downtime so that I can decide not to do anything. Yeah, so I agree with you. Yeah, so that I can decide not to do anything. Yeah, so I agree with you. And also like different styles of like. I don't want to get dressed up every single day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and go To a fancy dinner. Yeah, go to a fancy dinner. Yeah, because I'm like day two, like, depending on the length of the vacation, like day three, four, I don't want to wear makeup anymore. I'm like done with wearing makeup, especially on the beach.
Speaker 2:Like I don't really think I'm going to feel that way in Ireland. Like I definitely like. At first I was like I don't want to be in any cities, I just want to be with landscape. But someone's like you got to go hang out in a pub in Ireland. They're like it's a cool experience and I'm like I'm being really close-minded'm like all right, yeah, so I definitely want to do that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and um, but you don't have to get dressed up for that. Yeah, but, but, uh, so like, but, you know, like nanny and steve get dressed up every time they go to dinner, every time. No, yeah, I know so, and like, really, dressed up.
Speaker 1:Sometimes that feels like pressure to me because I'm like I don't have clothes to do. That's how I feel I literally like do not own that? Yeah me either To be that, and I have like two dresses that are nice and I've worn them so many times that like they're getting ready to be old.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's how I feel too. I don't have the attire to keep up, yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm like the nice thing for me is like if I decide to throw on some actual pants that aren't leggings or like sweatpants, yeah, and a nice shirt maybe, so I just think you have to.
Speaker 2:It's like setting boundaries, but also like being up front and honest yeah, clear like this is yeah this is what I need, like we, you know, needing to know that you're you're not going to be ready till the afternoon, yeah, and that um, and that I need to eat at certain time periods, and that steve likes to have activities planned, you know he doesn't. Too much sitting is like stressful for him, yeah. So I think that I think they're, you know, finding a balance really helps when you're doing family vacations. I know some people I have a friend who makes an itinerary and she makes it all fancy, like you know, in canva or something like that, and like they have everything planned ready to go, but and that works for some people, but, yeah, definitely doesn't work for me neither.
Speaker 1:but I also think too that like it has to, like you have to understand both ways, yeah, like, whereas like that doesn't work for us, like that has to be okay that it doesn't work for us for steve and annie, be okay that it doesn't work for us for Steve and Annie, and then, because it doesn't work for them, we have to be okay that that doesn't work for them.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But sometimes the thing that the way that it gets messed up is where their expectations of what they need are forced upon us yeah, or our expectations of what we need are forced upon them yeah. So, like then, that's when it's like okay, well, I don't want to just sit and do something that's stressing me out, so you also have to do the thing that doesn't stress me out, yeah, when, like, that doesn't work.
Speaker 2:I think what would be perfect is understanding that everybody can go in separate directions.
Speaker 1:And no guilt.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and there's no passive, aggressive stuff happening. It really is fine. You're going paddle boarding for two and a half hours, three hours or whatever. I'm not expecting you to come back right now. Yeah, I'm not expecting you to come. I'll see you later, who knows when.
Speaker 1:Maybe not at all yeah.
Speaker 2:And so I think that that is part of it as well. Like everybody's going to go and do their separate things and then we can come back and we can meet here, or you know or maybe having an ending destination.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like we can have a couple of things that are planned and set for us all. But then also like making the things that some people want planned and set just optional.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a good one. Like not making it mandatory because nanny was telling me about, because we're going to california to see um uncle dex and yes, and falcon and copper in um november, yeah, november, at thanksgiving. And nanny is like giving me the itinerary of the day right in the middle of me trying to work and I was like wait a second, hold on yeah, I wasn't prepared to take the information in yet and then, um, and she said that steven, dex and falco were going to a football game.
Speaker 2:And I'm like, wait a minute, I want to go to a football game so I was really upset that they didn't include me and she's like well, we'll be with the girls. I'm like I don't want to be with the girls I want to be with.
Speaker 2:I want to be at the football game yeah, I don't even care if it's with the boys, it's just that at the football game yeah yeah, so, um, that was funny, but but I know it will end up being fun with her and copper, so I, so I know it'll be fine. But but I said, I'm like I'm I want to go to mosaic on sunday and and I'm like I can uber if I have to. Like I, I want to figure out how to get to mosaic, because that's what I want and I want to go by myself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I want to go. Yeah, I just want to go by myself. Yeah, I don't want to experience it with anyone else and it's not on a jab on anyone. It's just that, I just you know.
Speaker 1:Need that time by yourself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I need that time by myself and like I might need to go walk by myself sometimes. I remember when I went with dax and amelia to hawaii and and amelia like told me in advance that they were going to have some private quiet reading time and that nobody was to talk at that point and I was like okay and and I I felt at first kind of insulted. I was like all right, but I'm like that's totally fine. I understand now why she said that because she wanted to prepare me.
Speaker 1:Don't talk to me. Yeah, she wanted to prepare me. She's like, don't talk to me during this time.
Speaker 2:She wanted to prepare me for like her needing some space, which is totally fine, and so I took that literally. I was like all right. So one day we had like the house that we stayed in was actually in a movie, the Descendants. So it was. There was the house, and then a beautiful huge backyard, and then the ocean, like the Pacific ocean, and then so it was like right there, like the beach was right off the house.
Speaker 2:And, um, which was absolutely perfect, beautiful and, and so we went and drove around and when we found a private like another private beach basically that's what we were on already, but a different private beach and we got out of the car and, like, went swimming and which was fun, that was fun. And then, but we were gonna they wanted to do that again and we were gonna drive for like an hour and a half and I and I was like I don't want to drive in the car and falcon was like two or three, like he was in that toddler age and I'm like this isn't fun for him to be driving in the car, so I'm like I'm going to skip this, I'm going to stay here.
Speaker 2:And then they left and Dex calls me and he's like are you all right? Yeah, are you? And he's like well, I just want to make sure you weren't mad or anything. I'm like I go, I thought you said it was okay to like yeah, do your own thing. Yeah, and honestly, I wish that I had gone ziplining in hawaii. Like I really regret not going ziplining, yeah, and um, and he was. And he's like oh no, amelia, thought you were mad. I'm like I'm not mad, are you mad? But they were he. They were kind of like well, you didn't come, you didn't want to spend time with the family. You're right, I didn't want to spend time with the family. You're right, I didn't want to spend time with a toddler driving an hour and a half to a beach that was going to look exactly like the beach. That was literally a minute outside. I don't even think it would take me 60 seconds to get to the beach. So it was just, it was weird. But I think you're right, it's like.
Speaker 2:And also, when you say you don't want to feel any guilt or have anyone act passive-aggressive about it, it's also you yourself being like I'm not going to accept that. Yeah, so it's you setting that boundary for yourself. Like you, you want to make me feel guilty. That's fine, that's your personality, but I am not going to own that because I'm not going to feel guilty about the thing that I need. Yeah, so I think that's important too. That's a hard lesson for me. Yeah, I can easily be guilted, but yeah, but also I can be a jerk sometimes and like not think of the other person's feelings, and that's not very nice. So, yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 1:I feel like the uh, yeah, the guilt is definitely like that's a hard. I feel that way too, and I think I feel like that more specifically with Nanny, because I'm like like, I mean, she's not like super young, yeah.
Speaker 1:So I'm like I want to be able to spend like all the time that I can with her. Like I know she's like 21, yeah, like mentally yeah, but I'm like I. And then when she's like, oh, you didn't want to do this, I'm like, well, like should I have? Like am I gonna regret that later?
Speaker 2:on you know, so like I think about it like that, but I'm like I can't really do that either, because right now this is what I need, and like, yeah, that's just gonna have to be okay, and also, it's again, it's the expectation of the vacation, like you and jake saw it, as this is a vacation that you so desperately needed, yeah, but then you didn't have a part where it could just be you and Jake, yeah. So I think that I think that's important, I think, but it's also communicating that yeah, like this isn't.
Speaker 2:You know, we are going to have to take some. I mean like, even though I was insulted when Amelia said that to me about we're going to have quiet reading time In a way, and in hindsight she prepared me for like, can you please stop talking?
Speaker 1:Like that would have been way more hurtful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so so telling me in advance that that that's what they need.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's that's okay.
Speaker 2:I mean, she might have said it in a different way, but it's all right yeah.
Speaker 2:I think, because I think I have to say that sometimes, yeah, and another thing, like steve gets really anxious if we don't get to the airport super early and that, but that makes me anxious, yeah, and I'm like I don't want to sit in the airport for three or four hours waiting for the flight. That really stresses me out, because then we have to be on the plane for hours, yeah, yeah, and so I get like that makes me have anxiety.
Speaker 1:So it's like it's just knowing that about each other and being like okay, I'm gonna be at the airport forever jake's family is the other extreme oh yeah, that would be worse that drives me because when we went to pennsylvania, like I'd never traveled with them, yeah, um, but like because I'm like I'm the two hours before, like I'm like because you don like I'm the two hours before, like I'm like because you don't like getting to the airport two hours before, not sitting and waiting for two hours, so that way, like you can go through security and whatever and have like an hour, okay, singular, to like go to the bathroom and make sure your gate exists and you know, get snacks and whatever.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I do like to have time for that because I want to.
Speaker 1:I don't want to feel like I'm rushing yeah but I also don't want to feel like I'm waiting forever. But we got there and we were like I felt like we were running a little late because we, uh, security was so rough, like it was really rough, and I was like, okay, well, I'm glad we got here, like at the time we did, and we, we get there and it's only like probably 20 minutes, and so we're gonna like board yeah and um, they're not even at the airport.
Speaker 1:Oh crap, and I was like. I was like this is insane to me like this does not make any sense.
Speaker 2:Were they gonna? Did they have to check bags?
Speaker 1:or were they just carrying on? I think they were just carrying on, but I was like still, yeah, like we're going to board in 20 minutes and you haven't even gotten to the airport, you haven't even parked your car.
Speaker 2:But what, like what would be the worst case scenario? They didn't make the flight and you guys made the flight and you're fine.
Speaker 1:And that's what I and that's what Jake, because it was like stressing me out for them, yeah. But then Jake was like all right, yeah, yeah, like that's true, um, so, and then I was like it's fine, but the because we were able to get there with enough time, but on the way back home, all of our travel plans was together. Yeah, yeah, um, yeah, luckily we were flying out of the teeny, teeny tiny airport that had literally one. It literally was the size of it was probably smaller than our house.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like you walk in and like the same person that checks your bag, is like flying the plane basically so like when we got there with like 15 minutes to spare, they were like oh you got some time yeah, you know like it was fine yeah so I was like small airports sometimes are really good in that way, like the hawaii airport is actually pretty little as well and um, it sucked on the way back because you had to have your suitcases checked for.
Speaker 1:Like you weren't taking fruits and vegetables, you weren't like oh yeah yeah and um, you weren't taking their stuff but it was, so it was a long line because it wasn't a bunch of people working there, so it was a long line of that but um, but it's good for what you just said yeah, I was like, thank god this is the on the way back situation, because if it was like, if we were in a big city and we were traveling how they would, I would have lost my freaking mind.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's. I guess it's all comes down to expectations, yeah, and what like what you can and clearly communicating with each other yeah, clearly communicating.
Speaker 2:um, I feel like for the ireland trip, like there's things that I really want to do, but but like it's a lot of walking and I know that nanny won't be able to do a lot of walking, so there'll be things that I'm gonna do by myself and I I want them to be okay with that, but I'll be a little bit more open to like whatever they want to do when we go to England and if we get to go to Paris, but then they can like.
Speaker 1:I'll go. Am I invited on these trips? I want to come this is the same trip.
Speaker 2:This is yeah, this is the same trip.
Speaker 1:Where's my invite?
Speaker 2:I want to come, so they, so, yeah, I want to come, um, so they, so yeah, I'll be like whatever, whatever you want, it'll be fine. But I like feel like I have wanted to go to Ireland for so long. So, yeah, not that I don't want to see, like I hope that we end up going to Paris, at least for a day, like I want to at least see it. But, um, and I am excited to go, you know, back to England. I haven't been there since I was a little kid, so I don't remember, really remember. But yeah, like Ireland, the whole thing, like it just sounds. I'm just excited. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So anything that we need to include, I mean I feel really grateful for these experiences.
Speaker 2:I definitely, and I felt really grateful that they got the house at the beach because I wanted colby to be, able to swim. Like that was so nice of them. Steve was like I only did it for you. And I was like what? Because I complained about it on instagram. I'm like, I'm so sorry. Oh, sometimes I don't mean to complain, I don't mean to um, like sound like an ungrateful, spoiled brat.
Speaker 1:No, I don't think that's true, but I do think that, like, we have been like, very like privileged in the last like years to be able to do the things that we can do and to even like be sitting here and be like, yeah, it was nice to be in the three-story beach house. Like some people are like can't even like go down the street for an hour yeah.
Speaker 1:So like we're definitely lucky and blessed to have those opportunities For sure, like no matter how they look, and like that doesn't lessen the fact that sometimes things aren't as great yeah. But like it also, like, is important to remember that we're lucky for those experiences, yeah, and grateful, and we're both grateful, yeah, and they also everybody. I think everybody knows that.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So, like, if you're listening to this and you're like, oh, they're so ungrateful about this, Like that's not true. Yeah, there are things that like are harder, and that's true for any situation.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no matter what you're talking about. There's also been different times of life, when it was when we didn't.
Speaker 2:When we went to Orlando, that was a lot. That took a lot for us to even have any kind of vacation at all. Yeah, and when I was divorced and the Knights invited us to North Carolina, that was a huge blessing. And then, dex, they flew us to California. I couldn't have given you guys vacations, and Alexis gave this, you know, tickets to Adventure Island. Like I couldn't do any of those things without those people. So, yeah, it was um. No, you're right, it's just been different times of life yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:And and yeah, I was gonna say like we're just like we're in the time where we get to do those things now and like we're grateful for that for sure, all right, well, um, my finger is stabbing pain right now. I pinched my finger in the pantry door today, so, um, that's really fun, ouch, um, but we will see you next week. If you're not caught up on all the podcasts, there's now some for you to listen to. Yeah, so you should go and do that, subscribe to the podcast on YouTube or wherever you listen as well. And since you love us so much, you can leave a five-star review so that other people can find us as well. And if you have any questions that you want us to answer on the podcast, there's a link below where you can ask them, or you can always just DM us and ask us there. So, yeah, that's it All right, have a good day.
