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MYH: 15 Roommate Conflicts, Parenting Struggles, and Dinner Drama
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Hey, welcome to Mind your Heart Podcast, your favorite corner of the internet where we chat about all things mental health. I'm Emily.
Speaker 2:And I'm Trina. Together, we're like your real-life Lorelai and Rory Gilmore. Each week, we'll bring you real conversations about the world of mental health and we will peel back layers on topics like anxiety, depression and much more.
Speaker 1:We're here to chat with you about the tough stuff, the everyday stuff and everything in between. So grab your emotional support water bottle I know we have ours. Find your comfiest chair or keep your eyes on the road and let's get into it. Are you ready, mom?
Speaker 2:Absolutely. Join us as we mind our hearts and hopefully make minding yours a little easier.
Speaker 1:Welcome back, welcome back to Mind your Heart. I'm Emily and I'm Trina and we are doing another. Am I the Asshole segment? Because we like it.
Speaker 2:And we got some good feedback. Yeah, and you liked it. Yeah, so why not? So we thought it would be fun to continue. Yeah, and also, you missed the best one I know because I had some technical difficulties.
Speaker 1:So that's okay. Um, they'll over time. We'll definitely continue to get some good ones I think this one that I have right now. The title is really just like okay, throwing me off.
Speaker 2:I'm excited.
Speaker 1:Oh okay, I'm ready because I'm like I don't know yeah all right, okay, so am I the asshole for inviting my roommate's ex to our house? I'm like yeah yeah but I'm also like what's the story? Why are you inviting okay?
Speaker 2:so so far I I say yes, you are, because you're inconsiderate to your friend. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking also. But maybe she's not friends with the roommate. That's true. They could just be roommates. They were roommates, so all right. So first I say yes, initially, okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think so too. Okay, she's been a friend of mine since way before they dated. I actually introduced them, okay, so is this a a female?
Speaker 1:I think so it's the ex is a female too, though she's been a friend of mine since before they dated. I I introduced All right, keep going. But sadly it didn't work. They had a very clean breakup and there was no foul for anyone. Love just faded out and this happened almost two years ago. They've seen each other several times and since then they were good like old friends. She hasn't been in our house for that long because of that and I respected it. Yeah, I think they're all. Are they all women, or is it like it sounds like?
Speaker 2:they're all women. I think so too. Um, it definitely sounds like the ex is a woman and the and then there's a woman. So it could be a male, but that's the roommate, but the. The bottom line is is that they had a decent ending. It's been two years. They saw each other and were fine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um okay, so she hasn't been in our house for that long because of that and I respected it. But since both have moved on, I felt like she could come over and hang out, like nothing sexual or anything like that. But when I invited her and another friend, all hell broke loose like god damn, I've never been screamed at so badly. They were telling me that how could I ask her that, that I knew that she broke up with her and she was still in love, etc. Etc. And they and they are right about that. But he has a new girlfriend. Okay, so it's a male roommate.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he has a new girlfriend and she now has a boyfriend. Okay, so I don't know what this person identifies as, but I think it's the girl was the one that broke up with the guy so what? I'm assuming is that there's two guys. Okay, this guy's name is, we'll just call him charlie, okay, so charlie and his friend sarah. Okay was, he had known sarah for a while, for a long time, and he introduced sarah to jimmy. Okay, and now jimmy is pissed as all hell that that he's that charlie has invited sarah over.
Speaker 2:Yeah, even though, but they were fine. What's the no like sexual thing? Does that mean between charlie and sarah?
Speaker 1:yeah, okay, like charlie was like, I'm inviting sar Sarah over with a couple of other friends as a friend. Yeah.
Speaker 2:What's your hesitancy?
Speaker 1:Is it because it's a male and a female? Yeah, because yeah, but I'm like they can be friends. And clearly they did not want to date, if he introduced Sarah to Jimmy and was like cool, now they're dating.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, that doesn't necessarily mean he didn't want to date her.
Speaker 1:Well, but from what we know, Could he?
Speaker 2:does he have to invite her to the house, like I actually think, if he wants to hang out with her? Whatever, go to a coffee shop, go to a coffee shop, go to a movie, go whatever. But you do, you have to bring them to the house in your personal space.
Speaker 1:Your ex, your ex I guess there should have been more communication is what I'm thinking, because I'm like to me. I'm like if, if this person like to me it sounds like charlie, hypothetical, charlie doesn't know that jimmy like would be this upset because they had seen each other and they were fine yeah and like it was what?
Speaker 2:so you're right, there was no communication between jimmy and charlie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I'm like charlie, you probably should have been like hey, I'm inviting sarah over yeah, is that?
Speaker 2:what do you think? Yeah?
Speaker 1:and then if he was like I rather you not, then be like okay, cool, then we'll go yeah, I won't even tell sir, I haven't even asked sarah yet. Yeah, yeah not just being like, hey, she's coming over, like figure it out. Um. So, let's see, I've never been screamed at so badly. They were telling me that. How could I ask her that?
Speaker 2:who's they?
Speaker 1:I don't know. I wonder if maybe that's their pronoun.
Speaker 2:Okay, if if this person. But there is a but jimmy is dating, jimmy is dating another woman yeah and sarah is dating another boy so yeah, okay, so they um okay, so maybe it is their pronoun okay uh because sometimes it can be like he, they, so maybe like he mostly goes by they.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I'm not sure this is very unclear with pronouns in this. Am I the asshole segment or section? Yeah, normally people are pretty clear. Um, they were telling me how I could ask her that, that I knew that he broke up with her and she was still in love. So jimmy broke up with sarah and sarah was still in love with jimmy. Okay, so then why? Why does jimmy care? Yeah, and they are right about that, but he has a new girlfriend and she has a boyfriend. I thought no harm would be done if she came over, okay, but you know what they say about assuming, so maybe don't do that.
Speaker 1:I don't remember exactly how I invited them, but it was something like hey guys, I've been thinking and you haven't been over to my house in a while, Knowing that you both moved on, it would be cool if you could come over and hang out. I even made sure my roommate wouldn't be there that day. Am I the asshole for inviting her? Was it the way that I asked should have? Should I have waited longer? I feel, like there's just the. The thing that I'm getting is that there's just a complete lack of communication.
Speaker 2:I agree and also I don't even think this is being community, like when he's when she or he said, when charlie said there is no sexual thing, why did you need to include that?
Speaker 1:yeah, unless you actually thought maybe there was, so that's the weird part.
Speaker 2:That's the part that's throwing me off a little sure he wasn't gonna be there like yeah, did you ask him that?
Speaker 1:or did you just like wait for a moment for him to not be present and then just go like oh, now's my chance, like yeah, I'm confused by the.
Speaker 2:So so I think I say partially that you, you, you are kind of the asshole because, um, I just don't think there's it's necessary for you to invite her to your house. I don't think you can't not. You can like you don't have to not be friends with her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what. So this person says you should have just asked your friend if he was comfortable with her being in the house. Yeah, your reasons seem reasonable to assume that he will be okay with it, but a text takes 10 seconds to write. I think other roommates, roommates reactions were over the top and childish like the screaming.
Speaker 2:Okay, that was other people too okay, so they was. The was the rest of the house.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it wasn't just one person I was really getting confused about who was who yeah, so there was like also the other sam, I'm not sure why the other roommates?
Speaker 2:well, I guess they were defending Jimmy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it's none of their business. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like, and if it upsets everyone so much, it's just not necessary to have her there.
Speaker 1:Then also, why are you asking Then it's too big of a deal, just let it go and go to a cop shop. Yeah, that's my opinion, me too, and, like you, don't need to go through all this. I, I agree, all right. So so you're kind of the asshole, but also the situation was a mess. Move on.
Speaker 2:For sure, that's our advice. All right, so now I'm going to find one. I'm just going to Um, oh, geez, um, okay. Am I the asshole for telling my husband I shouldn't have to ask for help with our son?
Speaker 1:this is hard for me okay because I understand the feeling of wanting for somebody to anticipate your needs. I get that and I do and this is something that Jake and I have talked about in counseling that it is important when you're in a partnership to sometimes be able to anticipate that because you're on the same page with somebody. But in order for them to be able to get to that point, you have to be able to communicate initially of what that looks like, so that way in the future they can learn from the needs that you've already communicated. So I'm like I understand where, like maybe she's probably feeling overwhelmed and like can you just freaking, help me with something? But it's like if you're not communicating that, then like that's not, it's no help. So it's, I feel it on both ends.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay so am I the asshole for telling my husband I shouldn't have to ask for? But?
Speaker 2:also.
Speaker 1:I'm like he's the dad, so he she shouldn't have to ask I. That's how I feel I'm also like you're a team, yeah, so you both should be communicating clearly with each other yeah of what that looks like, because he might think he's helping in other ways that you just aren't sure about.
Speaker 2:Because you're not communicating about it so I feel like this is.
Speaker 1:To me, this is a lack of communication on both of their ends okay, so um so I don't think she's an asshole, but I also don't think he's an asshole. Okay, but I don't know yet okay.
Speaker 2:So that's the initial um thought and I I don't think she's an asshole. Yeah, I don't think, um, and I don't think he's an asshole. At least I don't think yet yeah, so all right. So my husband has always wanted me to ask him to do things around the house. He's not the best at picking up clues and reading the room, but I figured once we had our baby he tried to work on it. Well, Okay.
Speaker 1:Well, that's what you get for assuming.
Speaker 2:Yep. Here we go again more assumptions yeah, and somebody isn't going to get better.
Speaker 1:No when, just because something gets, harder.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so the situation has gotten harder, so then you think they're going to step up and then you put more expectations on him, like that's a little unreasonable yeah, he still wants me to ask and he never offers to do anything with our son.
Speaker 2:It all right. I don't love that. No, no, it makes me feel like I'm the only parent. I'm the one who puts the baby down at night, every single day. I would be very frustrated by that. Yeah, um, during the week dad works, but he's off on the weekends and won't do it. I don't care if he's off or on on the weekend, it doesn't mean that that's your full-time everyday job, having a baby is a joint decision yeah, um or should be I'm the one who gets up with the baby whenever he wakes at night, because my husband is a heavy sleeper.
Speaker 2:Oh man, I remember being so mad at your dad for that, I just wanted to suffocate him. I was like, oh my gosh, wake up. Oh, it was terrible. Um, because my husband baby sleeps in our room right now. I find it hard to believe someone can sleep through a crying baby. If I do want to sleep a few extra hours in the morning, he gets super cranky and has an attitude oh, I'm like he is the asshole.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree for sure um, I'm the one who plays with our son and holds him. Dad rarely ever holds him. He always finds something else like the stroller, play mat swing to hold the baby instead whenever I do.
Speaker 1:There's definitely a deeper issue going on here, for sure sometimes, though, dads, um, men, have a hard time.
Speaker 2:Is this a son, is this a baby boy? That she hasn't said how she, um, I feel like it's not. I feel like he's a boy. It's with our son, yeah. So sometimes, men with their son infant sons have a hard time with that stage. They don't know what to do with them. They seem a little more natural if it's a girl, because girls are supposed to be more helpless and whatever.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But they don't know how to adjust their masculinity.
Speaker 1:Like a nature.
Speaker 2:To a son for some reason, and or at least I saw that myself. Okay, it was like dad, your dad was very like, so great when you were a baby, like, so like, took like. I didn't have to ask him either. So I understand that Like, and if he didn't let me sleep I would have gone insane. So I can understand why that would be so, so hurtful, for sure. I mean, I had to get up every time because I was trying to breastfeed.
Speaker 1:Well, it sounds like this guy is literally doing nothing.
Speaker 2:He's doing nothing. So that is the worst case scenario. But then when we had Jackson, he barely held him. He barely held him. He barely held him. He barely did. I mean he changed his diapers and stuff like that, but he he didn't. He barely held him. He was really making sure that you were feeling like happy and included and loved and whatever. But I was like what is going on here? But he got much better as jackson got older. So I'm just thinking that there might be something to do with the son-dad dynamic in the beginning.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and even sometimes just with babies in general, some men are not as good with the baby, with the infant, where they can't hold their head, they can't do any of those things yet. So not that that's an excuse. Like he has to learn to be better. Yeah, because that is his child and he needs to help as well. Yeah, so she says whenever I do voice my concerns about feeling alone in this, he says I do it to myself because I never ask him to get up in the mornings or help with the baby during the day. Now, that would be ridiculous. Yeah, she shouldn't have to ask him every single day. They should have a communication of I'm going to sleep in these days and you're going to get up. When I ask him to play with the baby, he doesn't look happy at all. I keep telling him I shouldn't have to ask for help or ask him to interact with his son. He should just do it. But he doesn't seem to understand. Am I just overthinking it, or should I ask him to help with the baby?
Speaker 1:No, you don't need to ask him constantly to help. What you need to ask him to do is go to counseling.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you guys need to go to counseling yeah, you guys need to go to counseling together. Yeah, they definitely need to go to counseling. They need to figure out exactly why the dad is reluctant and feels like he needs to be constantly reminded of things that should also.
Speaker 1:You're a grown-ass. That is also his responsibility. You don't have to be told to do everything all the time. You have that at the beginning didn't you say like that seems kind of like dishes. Yeah, that seems like an excuse.
Speaker 2:Yeah, or that he or and just his philosophy in general, that he believes that women should do everything and men shouldn't. That's kind of what it sounds like, unfortunately, and or maybe that was the way it was done at his house and so he didn't ever have to lift a finger. But I'm sorry, that's not the way it is here yeah, so I at least.
Speaker 2:That's not what her expectation is so yeah like yeah, I am okay so so someone says not the asshole. He's acting as though the baby is your primary responsibility and that any help he gives is his choice when asked. That's true. This is, in fact, a shared responsibility and he should be taking initiative rather than expecting you to carry the full mental load of parenting.
Speaker 1:Agree.
Speaker 2:Having said that, it sounds like this might go beyond him not wanting to do his share, since it sounds like he's not enjoying the baby or wanting to engage in bonding activities. Yeah, it might be worth considering if he's experiencing some depression or other issue that could be interfering. That's a good point.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That is a good point, and sometimes that actually does happen to men. I was reading a book about and the main character was had this experience when the child was born, had some depression and and like, almost like postpartum, where they didn't, couldn't, didn't want to bond with the baby. So I think it actually can't. It's not as common, but it can happen to men, so that could be a possibility as well. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:But this also sounds like a prior problem.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, um, that's, yeah, this, what is this?
Speaker 1:Like it sounds like an ongoing behavior of his.
Speaker 2:Okay, so this? She responded and said he has been depressed in the past and he's gone to therapy. He says he's no longer depressed, but that thought has crossed my mind. So so, so he's no longer depressed, but that thought has crossed my mind. So so, so he's in denial yeah, for sure, all right. Yeah, well, she's definitely not the asshole no, I don't think she's the asshole either, and and I definitely think they need to go to counseling.
Speaker 1:Yeah I think they need to go together too, like he probably needs to go by himself but, they also probably need to go together. Yeah, okay. So this person says am I the asshole for not changing our reservation to accommodate my sister's new boyfriend?
Speaker 2:maybe I mean yeah, I don't know why. Can't you just change the reservation? Yeah, I mean, it's her, it's a new boyfriend, so it's a new person coming along. Yeah, is this like a family only event, like I don't know you might be yeah, I kind of I'm like you sound like a little like clicky, yeah, and it was kind of mean, like you're just gonna.
Speaker 2:I mean, who knows, maybe that maybe she goes through boyfriends constantly and you're like again oh gosh, I gotta call the or I gotta get on open table and change the reservation. It's literally like one button, though, yeah so I'm like I was being sarcastic.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, okay, uh, all the trouble of doing that, yeah, or even like changing your reservation in any sense is easy. You just the restaurant and ask them to add one more seat. Okay, whatever, we had a group date night for me, my wife's best friend, so this is the husband, I guess. So we had a group date night for me, my wife's best friend, her husband and my sister and her new boyfriend Tyler, and my sister and her new boyfriend Tyler. So group date night with Brad wife's best friend Susan.
Speaker 2:Where's the wife? I think he is including her. Okay, my wife's best friend so like two other couples Okay.
Speaker 1:And my sister and her new boyfriend. Okay, so okay, it was a sushi place that my wife and her friend picked. All right, my wife had had to put her credit card down for the reservation because it was a saturday night okay and it was a larger party.
Speaker 1:On the way to the restaurant, my sister said in the group chat, let's meet here, another restaurant instead, ignoring our reservations. My wife told my sister she can't because of the cancellation fee. Yeah, it's like 50. Yeah, I think it's sometimes like it's per person too, or a percentage of the party or something. Yeah, my sister tried to say tyler doesn't eat fish, so let's go here and we can all chip in on the cancellation fee. Uh, no, that would be a. You need to pay for the cancellation fee yeah uh, my wife's best friend said, no, it's rude.
Speaker 1:the reservation is in less than 30 minutes, so we're going to the sushi sushi restaurant for dinner like planned, and you don't have to just eat fish, I know.
Speaker 2:There's steak at sushi places.
Speaker 1:Yeah, or vegetarian and vegan things too, like Pretty much everywhere. It's got that now. Yeah, tyler and my sister show up late and Tyler announced it is because they had to stop somewhere for him to eat before they showed up. He announces this oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:So Tyler Watson goes.
Speaker 1:We're late because I had to eat prior Like Now, I'm just here for the drinks. Yeah, okay, don't come at all. Oh my gosh, okay, don't come at all. Oh, my gosh Tyler was rude to us and the waitstaff when they didn't have any of the beers he wanted on tap. I was right. He sounds like a winner.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he sounds great.
Speaker 1:Although he already ate. He tried some ginger barbecue wings and hated them and complained to everyone about them. Good grief this guy. Of course, his name is Tyler too. Yeah, wings, and hated them and complained to everyone about them. Good grief this guy. We didn't. Of course, his name is tyler too. Yeah, like classic tyler. Yeah, yeah, we didn't interact what's your own title?
Speaker 2:I think of tyler cameron. When think of Tyler.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I like Tyler Cameron but like. Classic.
Speaker 2:Tyler. Tyler just sounds like just such a frat boy name.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we didn't interact much with Tyler after that. Both my wife, her friend and her husband are all Latino, so they speak in a Spanglish mixture. Okay, it's not hard to follow. I'm white, and so is my sister and tyler oh no I know that tyler's gonna get racist.
Speaker 1:just watch tyler gets grumpy when someone says moss at the table and ask them to speak in english, as if moss was something that is complicated to understand. The whole dinner was a shit because of Tyler's attitude. Then, oh my God, then Tyler breaks up with my sister later that week, saying she was spoiled and blaming her family of being rude to him.
Speaker 2:Oh for gosh sakes.
Speaker 1:I told my sister, it seemed like no loss, because tyler was a dick. My sister said my wife and I were the dickheads because we had to get sushi. After she tried to get us to someplace else, I told my sister that we were not canceling reservations for one person 20 minutes before we had to check it that's unrealistic. I told my sister tyler was rude, childish and a dickhead and I'm glad he broke up with her so I never have to see his fucking face again.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh he's taking it too far. I mean, like I get it, tyler is a jerk, but like whoa tyler is definitely a jerk and completely that's ridiculous and but they are having like a sibling fight over tyler.
Speaker 1:I don't think tyler is worth it, tyler is definitely not worth it.
Speaker 2:They need to move on and then what they've been.
Speaker 1:He's a new boyfriend and he breaks up with her a week later. What have they been dating? Maybe a month? Like are you really that upset yeah? Exactly this and then he goes on to say my mom texted me later saying I need to apologize because my sister had been crying all day over the situation and breakup.
Speaker 1:I told my mom that if she had met the dude she would feel the same way. But my mom thinks I am the asshole for saying shitty things about tyler to my sister in case they get back together oh gosh I'm hoping for everyone that tyler stays far away from the.
Speaker 2:I agree tyler is not worthy. No, yeah, so he's. He's ridiculous yeah and I don't think this guy, I don't think he's an asshole, I don't think he's an islander. No, the god that wrote this, oh, tyler I was like yeah, tyler, tyler is an asshole tyler is an asshole. I don't think the guy writing it is an asshole. No, I don't think I think, he should not have gone like let his sister push his buttons and go further yeah and then but she was being completely unreasonable.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I'm like I hear you. Oh, yeah, not the asshole. This guy sounds like a giant baby and your sister should have been appalled by his rudeness to her friends and family. Yeah, not to mention wait staff, rather than trying to blame you, yeah, yeah, good point. Yeah. Somebody said I would have told him. If he's so miserable, just leave, yeah, yeah. Somebody said I can't eat fish but love sushi. Around where I live there are quite a few places to do sushi with just veggies or egg, chicken and beef. Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's what I said. Yeah, I'm like there are options here, tyler, I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1:You did the right thing. Good riddance, Tyler. I would have told Tyler just not to come. Tyler, you suck oh my gosh the time to raise objections on a restaurant is when it's being discussed yeah not after he had agreed to eat at one restaurant. This was a good thing for your sister in the long run. What other agreement would he have gone back on? Yeah, yeah, if he can't simply make a dinner reservation, he is no man for commitment. Classic Tyler reservation he is no man for commitment.
Speaker 2:Classic time, oh my gosh I think we should do one more.
Speaker 1:Okay, that was fun. I have one pulled up if you want me to just do this one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't want to do it, okay.
Speaker 1:This one's shorter. Okay, am I the asshole for asking for compassion during pregnancy sickness? Absolutely not. Who's getting mad? Is it Tyler? It's probably Tyler. Yeah, tyler found a new person and he is fucking it all up. Okay, am I the asshole? I'm 12 weeks pregnant. I've been suffering through some of the worst days of my life. Luckily, I haven't been throwing up much today, or much, but today I did. When I finally made my way back to the couch, my husband didn't even acknowledge my existence classic Tyler. He talked to our cat who was sitting in between us, never asked how I was feeling or if he could get me anything. When I told him to have some compassion for how I was feeling, he accused me of vomiting for attention and said he was annoyed. I asked him for compassion. Am I the asshole for being mad at him?
Speaker 1:no, you should divorce him immediately yeah I.
Speaker 2:I don't know about divorcing him immediately, but that's not a good sign. No, like you're not come on Vomiting for attention. Nobody likes that feeling. It's such a bad feeling. Yeah.
Speaker 1:This person says OP, which is the original person, get into therapy with husband now. Yeah, or start figuring out how to live on your own. This is no marriage you want to bring a child into. Get into therapy with husband now or start figuring out how to live on your own.
Speaker 2:This is no marriage.
Speaker 1:You want to bring a child into it lacks compassion and respect.
Speaker 2:That's kind of a an abrasive way to say that, but like yeah true, I mean it's, I mean hopefully just an isolated incident where he's just acting like an idiot, but um a moron, but yeah, a tyler, a tyler, but hopefully he's, yeah, I, I kind of agree, like you. This is like a red flag, a big red flag, yeah, especially accusing her of vomiting for um attention yeah, this is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, people are not happy with this. Yeah, this is the wrong guy to reproduce with. Yeah, all right, well, that was easy. Yeah, that was easy. That was a lot shorter.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all right. Well, I thought that was fun. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so if you want to hear more, We'll probably do more, regardless of if you want it or not. Yeah, does that make us the asshole, I don't know. Okay, well, if yeah, if you like this, then you should subscribe um on YouTube where you can actually watch the podcast. Um, if you're more of a listener, then um listen and give us a review. Five stars is just easy click of a button. Um, and if you have any questions or suggestions, leave them in the comments below of what you want to hear more of. If this is something you want to hear more of, let us know. If something else is what you want to hear more of tell us that, too.
Speaker 2:Tell us that too. We're getting ready to have a whole guest series, though.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:That starts like next week right Next week, yeah, and so we will have a series of guests. We have like how many? Like four, we have five. We have five lined up. So that'll be exciting, with some really exciting topics coming.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and just like some really special people.
Speaker 2:For sure. So yeah, so stay tuned for that yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm excited for that. Yeah, that's it All right.
Speaker 2:Mind your heart on Monday.
Speaker 1:Mind your heart on Monday. Bye, bye.