Mind Your Heart
Welcome to "Mind Your Heart," this cozy corner of the internet where Trina Deboree and Emily Reneé —your real-life Lorelei and Rory Gilmore duo—come together each week to chat about everything from mental health to the daily nuances of life. In each episode, we peel back the layers of topics like anxiety, depression, PTSD, and eating disorders with warmth, understanding, and a touch of humor (because otherwise, this just sounds depressing)!
Trina, an educator turned entrepreneur and mental health advocate, joins forces with her daughter Emily, a mental health coach and anorexia survivor, to share their journeys and insights in a way that feels like a heart-to-heart with old friends. The goal? To spark conversations that truly matter and to create a space where laughter meets healing.
Let's navigate the ups and downs of mental health together, making each day brighter and each challenge a little lighter. Grab your emotional support water bottle, put in your headphones, and join us while we mind our hearts for chats that comfort and inspire.
Mind Your Heart
MYH: 24 REPEAT From Technical Glitches to Pop Culture Revelations
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Ever wondered what happens when technology betrays your podcasting dreams? Well, we've been there! After a frustrating technical glitch wiped one of our recordings, we're bouncing back with more vigor than ever, ready to share our highs and lows over back-to-school chaos, and indulge in a little pop culture therapy. This time, we’re pulling out the big guns with our beloved "Gilmore Girls." Whether you're a veteran of Stars Hollow or a curious newcomer, our trivia session will have you laughing, reminiscing, and maybe even dusting off those old DVDs.
But that's not all! We stir the pot with a hearty blend of nostalgic TV talk and today's provocative shows like "Naked Attraction," which flips dating on its head with its bold approach to body positivity. With topics ranging from naked dining experiences to reflections on media's role in shaping self-image, we're diving headfirst into the conversation—and inviting you along for the ride. So grab your coffee, settle in, and join us as we examine what these stories and spectacles say about our society, our insecurities, and our liberation.
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welcome back welcome back. We're having a little bit of a rough recording session. Yeah, this time, yeah, we recorded a whole episode and, oops, something technical happened and we lost the recording.
Speaker 2:Bum, bum, bum yeah, but like it was my recording that was taken off, like it just I have my. So if you see me constantly checking for the people who are watching on youtube, if you see me just looking down, it's because I'm, like now, paranoid that my recording is gonna stop. And we discovered that it was it literally just stopped on its own, like it just did it again earlier when we tested it out.
Speaker 1:So yeah, so mechanical errors occur sometimes. I I have been. This is my third podcast. I've been podcasting since 2018 and I think in all that time it's only been two or three times where I forgot to hit record, which is not technically a technical issue, it's more of a yeah.
Speaker 2:This time I did hit record and then it stopped.
Speaker 1:Yeah, five seconds in I literally just was like do to do and I was interviewing someone and they were, we were on zoom, recording it on zoom and we had to do it all over again and you just never get it right. The second time you lose that initial response and reaction. Yep, yeah. So today we are going to welcome this is Trina, and.
Speaker 1:I'm Emily we're going to play a fun game of Gilmore Girls. Yes, so we told you at the introduction of our podcast Mind your Heart that we were huge gilmore girl fans and we love lauren, graham and alexis pledell and we love rory and lorelei. And so we're going to play a little game that I got for christmas called gilmore girls and I took my glasses off.
Speaker 1:Yes, um, trivia deck, an episode guide, so so, yeah, so we're just going to play a little fun game and if you're a Gilmore Girls fan, you can try to guess these questions, and if you're not, then maybe you'll learn something new about Gilmore Girls and actually want to watch it, because it's such a fun show you should watch it. I'm about to watch it again. So do we want to do our highs and lows now or after?
Speaker 1:We can do them now all right, so I know what your low is yeah, I know my low.
Speaker 2:I think it's like that. I'm just tired right now, like today is definitely a little bit more of a low energy day for me. Um, I did not put on any makeup well, actually that's not true. I have like a dot of highlight so I look a little more awake. But it's just been kind of a long week just in general. Not bad, just long. So I'd say that's my low, had a little bit of a cry break in between episodes. And then my high You're getting contacts. Yeah, I'm getting contacts. I was gifted the gift of contacts. So yeah, because like my glasses, like they're like digging into the side of my face, like there's like a little indent here and it's very uncomfortable.
Speaker 2:I'm also not used to wearing glasses all the time like and not that I am wearing them all the time, but I'm trying to wear them when I notice that I could need them and they do make things less blurry. So I'm like, okay, well, maybe that'll help with other things, like focus in my head and whatever. So, anyways, uh, the, yeah, I I'm getting context, that's my high.
Speaker 1:I think those are good highs and lows, yeah, all right. So my low is a future low. I'm gonna give a future low, okay, because when this episode comes out in sometime in september because now we're a little out of order, so I don't know yeah, um but jack Jackson will have already gone back to school, so that will be a low, although I'm going to say a future high and a future low. So that's a future low, but the high of Jackson going is that oh, that's our special guest.
Speaker 1:It is currently thundering Because we special guest it is currently thundering because we in florida it's raining, it's gonna rain, yeah. So, um, yeah, we're just gonna keep going, all right. What was I gonna say? Oh yeah, my future high is that my water pitcher, kobe, is going to be full all the time because I constantly fill it and he doesn't drink it open, wide open, with his mouth on the tap.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that that'll be not there. And then the bathroom, the guest bathroom, will be clean and there'll be no more laundry on the top of the staircase. That'll be, yeah, really nice. So it's a high, a high, low, high and low for the future, nice for future me. Yeah, love that for future you me too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right, so let's get started. We are playing a friendly game of Gilmore Girls. We we both have some competitive tendencies. Um, I unfortunately think that some of that comes from my family and you don't think, dad's family's competitive um yeah, dad's family's competitive, but I'm gonna take the blame on this one, so I feel like he's a better sport than um then yeah, I think he's a better sport than I am I've. I've improved though like I hit, I hit rock bottom yeah when I was yes but not on the podcast.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we did we did yeah, when we?
Speaker 2:the episode that's coming out september 2nd is a game, is you and?
Speaker 1:me, oh, and I kicked out my friend's yeah, yeah, okay well then I'll have to tell that story again. Yeah, yeah, but unless they, didn't hear that episode.
Speaker 2:If you want to know it, then you should go back and watch it, check out that episode.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I did hit rock bottom and now I'm new and improved and you will notice in that game, if you are watching on YouTube, that I'm not getting as like worked up as other people in the room. So I'm like I'm going to give myself a round of applause for that. Yeah, because I think that's come a long way. I also remember oh gosh, I have to confess this one because this is another rock bottom moment. So when I was teaching second grade for so long, we used to take kids out and play kickball, sometimes on Fridays, not all the the time, but every once in a while and I used to like my sixth grade teacher did that every Friday we played kickball. That was like my favorite. Talk about like getting kids to love school. No matter what was happening, playing a game of kickball every Friday was like the highlight.
Speaker 2:It was so fun.
Speaker 1:I remember one, what's it called? Friday the 13th? I got two home runs in a row and that was a high.
Speaker 2:Anyway, it was fun. That was a fun, it was fun.
Speaker 1:So we were playing kickball and I had some girls that were not super into it and they were like lollygagging in the outfield and I got mad at them and then I think they think they started crying because we were losing or something like that, and I was like there's no crying in kickball and I was like there's no crying in kickball and I was being a little bit ridiculous. We were playing another class and that was the problem.
Speaker 1:We were competing against another second grade class and that teacher was very smug and so I was getting mad. Who was it? Yeah, it was my friend Nicole. Miss Siegel, you weren't there when she was there, she was so fun I had the best time teaching with her.
Speaker 1:So I know she's not listening, but if she were, yeah, I had so much fun teaching with her. It was so fun and that friendly game was fun. But I think my class lost and I didn't take it very well. But today is a different day, so I have grown a lot.
Speaker 2:It's a new dawn. All right.
Speaker 1:So let's start. I'm going to go first. Okay, all right, this is a Lorelai. Maybe I should try not to look at the answer. Maybe we should just do it like that Can you see the answer.
Speaker 2:I've already looked at all the answers. Oh, you have. Okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:Lorelai discover on her porch after she and Jason break up. I would not have remembered this After she and Jason break up. Yeah, I'm going to talk while you think Is this something that Emily put on her porch. Well, I don't think I can give hints.
Speaker 2:I guess I can. I was like so much for a friendly game. Give my girls trivia, Okay game okay, no it isn't discovered on her porch yeah, you're not gonna know this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, very hard. Two cats what I know. I don't even remember that after seeing the answer two cats, yeah I don't remember that either.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 1:What award does rory's love interest, jess, receive from walmart?
Speaker 2:oh, he was the best employee or employee of the month.
Speaker 1:Yes, employee of the month, good job what does richard want lorelei to do with the graduation check he gives her? Oh, I remember this when they're at the community college. I'll give you a little background, because I remember this one.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And he hands it to her in the envelope when Emily has walked away.
Speaker 2:Oh, doesn't he want her to like? Keep building the inn.
Speaker 1:No, he wants her to put it towards something fun.
Speaker 2:Oh really To have a little fun yeah. I don't remember that yeah.
Speaker 1:He's like, he's like I want. He was like have a little fun, or something like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Very sweet. What was located at Luke's before it was a diner, it was a hardware store. Absolutely Congratulations. You got two out of four. That's kind of sad.
Speaker 2:No, that's good.
Speaker 1:Are you ready? Yep, this is a hard game.
Speaker 2:So I think two out of four is good, okay, uh, when Lorelai is about to marry Max, where?
Speaker 1:is her bachelorette party held? Oh, it's in that. It's in that, is it maybe at the waffle, the waffle place? Um, it's at a bar, like I remember being at a bar, but um, I don't think you're gonna get this one. Okay, I don't know a drag club oh, I did not remember that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay um, why does paris freak out during her and rory's bicentennial speech? Because she had sex. Well, that's part of it, but the answer is she didn't get into harvard oh yeah, she's like because harvard doesn't want me that's right, because I had sex.
Speaker 1:yeah, I remember the sex part, but not the Harvard part. Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:Who invites Emily to Lorelai's bachelorette party.
Speaker 1:Oh, suki accidentally Michelle, michelle, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's what it says, michelle, I don't think that's right.
Speaker 1:Who invites Emily to Lorelai. I think it's Suki.
Speaker 2:I feel like you're right. Who wants to take the photos for Max and Lorelei's wedding?
Speaker 1:Who wants to take the photos for Max and Lorelei oh Kirk?
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm. Yeah, my hint was going to be think of someone who wants to do everything. Yeah, all right. All right well that's not bad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I say two and a half. Two and a half, yeah, I got half of.
Speaker 2:She had sex, oh okay all right so, but that's not on the card.
Speaker 1:It's just that she didn't get into harvard oh yeah I just said that it was part of what she did all right, so that's fine. Um, what does luke make for lorelei when she's ah, when she's marrying max?
Speaker 2:oh, is it the little shit? I don't remember the name of it.
Speaker 1:It's like a arch, yeah, it's a hoopa, hoopa. I think that's how you say it. Hoopa. It's spelled like c-h-u-p-p-a-h, but I don't think it's chupa, I think it's. I don't know, but it's a jewish wedding canopy to stand under during the ceremony. Yeah, yeah, all right. So what does rory do to help her decide which college to choose? I know this. What does rory do yeah to help herself decide. It's something that Rory does to help herself decide where she wants to go to college.
Speaker 2:This is such a Rory behavior. Oh, she makes a pros and cons list.
Speaker 1:Yeah, pros and cons Okay.
Speaker 2:Because what I was thinking about was what Lorelai did to help Rory decide, which was when she put all the Yale stuff up in her room?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was cool. What does Emily think Lorelai should add to the inn? A spa yeah, that's one. Or a tennis court, but that you got it. Where does Lane hide all of her CDs? In the floorboards? Good job, that was easy. One. Good job, yeah, that was good.
Speaker 2:Okay. Why doesn't Lorelai want to go on another date with Peyton Sanders?
Speaker 1:Oh gosh, because all he does is like talk about himself and his car and stuff like that. I think it was a lot about his car, yeah.
Speaker 2:He's boring, with no sense of humor.
Speaker 1:Well, I remember that episode we should pause for people to think, I guess, because if they're playing along, we're just jumping right into the answer.
Speaker 2:All right, okay well, that episode is funny to me because, like in my mind, like he invited her to some concert, like in the future yeah, like a one she wanted to go to. Yeah, yeah and I was like man, would I hold out for the free concert? Like even with this wanted to go, yeah, yeah. And I was like man, would I hold out for the free concert? Like even with this should be, because she would have had to like go on a couple of dates more with him in between.
Speaker 2:I'm like no, depend on who the artist was absolutely not well like.
Speaker 1:If somebody was like taking me to the era store, oh that would be, I think I might stick it out but but you've never been on a super boring date where they just talk about themselves in their car that's true, but I probably just do some like internal like let's go to a movie like organ yeah yeah, that's a good one or like an arcade.
Speaker 2:That's's good. Yep, yeah, those are some things that we could do. We could also go get a massage. Then there's no talking. Yes, but not a couple's. Why not? We're in this situation Because you're like naked with the stranger. Oh, I don't really care about that. Okay, all right. Next, okay. Oh, I don't really care about that. Okay, all right. Next, okay, what role does taylor assume rory will play during the opening of his soda?
Speaker 1:shop gosh um, he's got the queen like the ice cream queen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah okay, which musician did richard become a fan of after seeing him in a restaurant? I would not know this, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't know Moby. Yeah, I don't even know who that is, me neither.
Speaker 2:Okay, what instrument does Lane play in her band? The drums, yeah.
Speaker 1:Nice, all right. Who is Chase Bradford? I don't know. I have no idea. It's a blind date set up by laurel's parents.
Speaker 2:I don't remember that at all. I feel I remember her getting set up on a blind date, but I don't remember his name being chase bradford me either.
Speaker 1:I don't remember what he looks like. Did we see him Just like a basic white guy? Okay, I don't remember. Who does Rory see kissing Jess at the first annual Stars Hollow end of summer madness festival?
Speaker 2:It's that blonde girl. I don't remember her name. Her name is Shane.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, what does Emily do to Rory's Yale dorm room?
Speaker 2:What does Emily do? Oh, she like fully furnishes it. Yeah.
Speaker 1:She redecorates. What does Miss Patty donate to the rummage sale?
Speaker 2:uh, oh, is this the the one that where she, like I don't know? Now I'm thinking about what luke donates, because I'm thinking about the jacket- yeah, that's, that's a good memory.
Speaker 1:They go to the um. What is that concert with? What is her name?
Speaker 2:oh, bangles I don't know what is she?
Speaker 1:donates drums that she danced on at the copa cabana in 1969. Okay, yeah, I would not have gotten that sorry they were huge too, and she could jump out of them.
Speaker 2:You don't remember that at the end no all right okay, um what animal wanders into the dragonfly inn and stays there for 20 minutes?
Speaker 1:cletus yeah yeah that was really good, I know. Yes, I'm impressed.
Speaker 2:I can't believe I remember the horse's name. Yeah, because it says cletus, the horse, yeah I'm like I probably would have just gotten the horse part, but not cletus. I was like expecting you to say a horse.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yay me.
Speaker 1:Nice.
Speaker 2:Okay. Who moves into Rory's Yale dorm when her mother asks her to leave Elaine? Yeah, I was like this is an easy one, excuse me. Who is the eccentric cousin who comes to visit Trix's? Who is the eccentric cousin who comes to T Trix for? Who is the eccentric cousin who comes to Trix's funeral?
Speaker 1:Oh, the lady that looks like the grandma, which.
Speaker 2:I'm pretty sure it's the same actress.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is the same actress. It's oh gosh, it's on the tip of my tongue, she's even though Doesn't she smell too? Um starts with an m I can't, I don't know, but I think I I think I got that was a lot to remember those some details.
Speaker 2:maryland, maryland, mm-hmm. Yeah, you can remember Cletus, but you can't remember I know Cletus, the horse who keeps a photo of Lorelai to show to prospective boyfriends. Oh, miss Patty.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 2:I did good on that one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you did. All right, what is the name of Jackson's cousin? This is the one I thought you were going to ask Rune yes. Yes, ugh, there was more to the question, but you got it. When Rory graduates from Yale, how many resumes does she send out? I would never remember this.
Speaker 2:Oh, so many, I don't know. It's like a ridiculous number, isn't it? Yeah, like 85?
Speaker 1:Nope, 74. But that was good, that was close. Who did Emily think Christopher would eventually marry Lorelai? Yeah, there is a sign behind the counter at Luke's Diner. What does it say? No cell phone. Yep, good job, good job, nice, okay, all right, you want this to be the last one, sure Okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, why does Michelle hug Lorelai?
Speaker 1:Why does Michelle hug Lorelai?
Speaker 2:When Luke breaks up with her. No, she's just heard that her grandmother died.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I don't know um who well yeah I already just established that, yeah, all right, um, it doesn't even I mean like.
Speaker 2:What I meant was that even hearing the answer, I don't remember. Yeah, I know it's just funny like yeah, well, I don't know who are rory's three roommates during her first year at yale oh gosh.
Speaker 1:Well, one of them is paris. And then the athletic girl who runs track um, I don't remember her name. And then the kind of weird girl that's like 16 um, yeah yeah, um, I don't remember their names janet and tana.
Speaker 2:Janet and tana, all right darn what does emily find while sorting through tricks's belongings?
Speaker 1:oh, she finds a letter that she wrote to Richard about not marrying Emily and like getting back together with Pamela Lott.
Speaker 2:Yeah, pamela Lott, when she gets all drunk. Look, how good that was. Such a good memory too. Yeah, that was good, because that's not even in the answer, the Pamela Lott part. What is the name of Lane's Chilton boyfriend? Lane's Chilton boyfriend, lane's chilton boyfriend?
Speaker 1:yeah, it was like the first like asian guy that she liked henry. That's good. Yay, yeah, you did good. You know we're we're making the big deal out of this because I don't tend to remember some details.
Speaker 2:So the fact also like. These are things I would not. Yeah, these are hard.
Speaker 1:So the fact that I remembered some specifics, yeah, but I've also watched this show like seven times, yeah I know I don't.
Speaker 2:I feel like I haven't watched it in a while me either.
Speaker 1:I'm getting ready to start again, but I'm currently watching naked attraction oh my god, so weird, right so weird it's just wild, I don't know. They're totally naked first of all, like full frontal nudity for males and females and I'm sorry to say, but ew like not to women.
Speaker 2:I don't mean that to women.
Speaker 1:I mean that to men like ew yeah yeah, it's like because they're like flaccid. Ew, yeah, yeah, it's like because they're like flaccid. Oh, I know, but I'm like I just don't and then. But I will tell you one thing it has. Men have good butts. Some men do have good butts and and I thought that was an interesting fact that they share. About butts like that, you're attracted to it because of the caveman days when you saw that as a promising hunter yeah I was like that's interesting, so I like those little facts.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that's interesting, it's definitely it's.
Speaker 2:It's because, like when you first hear about the show like if you don't know what it is, it's basically a show where, um, there's like one, there's like a person who's like picking from these people, and I've there's like four six, oh six okay, so there's six people, they're all naked and the the main person.
Speaker 1:They uncover them like bottom. Yeah, part by part. So the first part is the bottom part of you, like under your stomach, so like your private areas and your legs and feet. And then, and also, this one guy doesn't pick a girl because of her bad feet, which her feet were gross, so, um, that was funny. And then, like sometimes they turn around, look at their butts and then they next up is your, um, stomach and your torso, yeah, your torso area and your chest, yep.
Speaker 2:And then your face, narrow it down to like two and then yeah, then it's their face, and then they have to. The person picking has to get naked, yeah yeah, and then they have to yeah like yeah, but it's interesting because it's like it's like a psychological kind of thing, like it's like not just like I mean, it's like it is that kind of surface level, like definitely surface level, but it's like what you're automatically attracted to yeah so it's kind of like it's like where you're experiment, yeah, like where you're what your brain is.
Speaker 1:Yeah what your brain is called to and what like maybe why? Yeah, I think that's interesting and, yeah, the thing that it honestly for me has been that it makes me feel like a lot less self-conscious about my body right, it's and, and the thing, like some of the people have said, like, oh, like, I really enjoyed this experience because like I've. I feel so comfortable with myself yeah, I feel so free and the compliments and like the guys are not saying anything about dumb things that we think of yeah like that your boobs are not proportionate or that you have a stomach or that you like.
Speaker 2:You're not saying anything about that yeah, most of like everybody's pretty respectful at least I've only seen like two or three episodes.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, I think I'm on like episode three or four, yeah, but it's all yeah. So I'm like I mean I can't imagine doing that, I can't.
Speaker 2:I think I could do it Really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, so there's this thing this is so random, but it's called the food experience, like F U U D, I believe that's what it's called Um, it's they do it in New York, um, and Los Angeles and like in a different, like some different countries, where you are completely nude, you go completely nude and it's with a bunch of different people and you have like this really like nice, like dinner and they like it's like mostly like vegan, but it's like well prepared and like clean food and you're like well-prepared and like clean food and you're just like socializing with other people and I want to do it, like I think it would be so cool to do Because, like every I know it sounds so strange, but it's like everybody's there and like and I'm not explaining it super well, but like, if you look it up on instagram, it's just so cool because it's like everybody's just them like you.
Speaker 2:You literally are just your raw self and like everybody's there to just like be with each other, so maybe there's something liberating about that I don't know, it sounds terrible to me, but um I feel like it just sounds cool, because I'm like it's not a, it's not like, it's a giant orgy, like it's literally just like you're going to have a nice dinner Naked.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I think it sounds interesting. It would definitely be something I would be like. I would want to try at some point in my life. All right, I think it would be cool. But yeah, I started watching Brooklyn Nine-Nine.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I was going to say this was recommended.
Speaker 2:It's good, is it? Yeah, okay, good, it's funny. I like it a lot.
Speaker 1:I need to check that out. Yeah, yeah, all right. Well, we hope you enjoyed this fun, lighthearted episode. We had to get back on track from our mishaps. Yeah, and yeah, we'll see you next. Monday See you next Monday.
