Mind Your Heart
Welcome to "Mind Your Heart," this cozy corner of the internet where Trina Deboree and Emily Reneé —your real-life Lorelei and Rory Gilmore duo—come together each week to chat about everything from mental health to the daily nuances of life. In each episode, we peel back the layers of topics like anxiety, depression, PTSD, and eating disorders with warmth, understanding, and a touch of humor (because otherwise, this just sounds depressing)!
Trina, an educator turned entrepreneur and mental health advocate, joins forces with her daughter Emily, a mental health coach and anorexia survivor, to share their journeys and insights in a way that feels like a heart-to-heart with old friends. The goal? To spark conversations that truly matter and to create a space where laughter meets healing.
Let's navigate the ups and downs of mental health together, making each day brighter and each challenge a little lighter. Grab your emotional support water bottle, put in your headphones, and join us while we mind our hearts for chats that comfort and inspire.
Mind Your Heart
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Have you ever stood firm in your faith when everything seemed to be crumbling? After a longer-than-usual break between episodes, we're back with an intimate catch-up that covers everything from unexpected job loss to standing mere inches from Hugh Jackman.
When Jake suddenly lost his church position, it could have triggered panic. Instead, we witnessed how unwavering faith creates space for better opportunities to emerge. The contrast between toxic work environments and healthy ones becomes crystal clear as we discuss the difference between places that expect endless dedication without proper support versus organizations that recognize talent, respect boundaries, and equip their team with necessary tools. This transition serves as a powerful reminder that sometimes life's interruptions become its greatest gifts.
The conversation shifts to the hustle behind the scenes when you're balancing entrepreneurship with adventure. From publishing a children's book to preparing for trips to Peru and Morocco, we reveal the unglamorous reality of working double-time before taking time off. It's the side of business ownership that social media rarely shows – late nights ensuring client work is complete so you can fully immerse yourself in experiences abroad.
Perhaps most touching is our discussion of pure joy found in unexpected places. The emotional high of seeing Hugh Jackman perform created a happiness that lingered for days afterward. We explore those rare, transcendent moments when connecting with something meaningful creates an almost indescribable feeling – a mixture of pride, gratitude, and wonder that lifts your spirits above life's chaos.
Throughout it all, our mother-daughter dynamic provides contrasting perspectives on everything from work-life balance to raising children in a travel-filled life. Whether you're navigating career changes, planning adventures, or seeking those elusive moments of pure joy, this episode reminds you that faith can carry you through uncertainty to something better waiting on the other side.
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Hey, welcome to Mind your Heart Podcast, your favorite corner of the internet where we chat about all things mental health.
Speaker 2:I'm Emily and I'm Trina. Together, we're like your real-life Lorelai and Rory Gilmore. Each week, we'll bring you real conversations about the world of mental health and we will peel back layers on topics like anxiety, depression and much more.
Speaker 1:We're here to chat with you about the tough stuff, the everyday stuff and everything in between. So grab your emotional support water bottle I know we have ours. Find your comfiest chair or keep your eyes on the road and let's get into it. Are you ready, mom?
Speaker 2:Absolutely. Join us as we mind our hearts and hopefully make minding yours a little easier. Hi, hi.
Speaker 1:Welcome back. Welcome back to Mind your Heart.
Speaker 2:So let's do something a little bit different today. I mean, we have, in the past, done like a check-in, yeah, the past done like a um check-in, yeah, and but I think that I think that should be we. I feel like we had so much happen in the last couple of weeks actually, it's probably been like a month now, right, since we've actually recorded yeah, because we like, when we last recorded was longer than what we normally did.
Speaker 1:Because we started doing every other week, so I think it's been. It's been more than a month, yeah it's been a while I feel like it's been a couple of months.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it does feel like it's been long. So I feel like it's been since before um jake got laid off oh, we even just discussed that, so we got a lot to to catch up on and, um, I mean, as far as our listeners, they just heard our episode where we were talking about slang, slang, slang, slang okay, slang, I thought you said slaying like s-l-A-Y-I-N-G and I was like mm slay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we could have put that word in there. Actually, if you had put your own millennial words because you're right on the cusp, then it would have gone better. I'm a zillennial.
Speaker 1:Zillennial. Whatever, that's not a real thing. Zillennial.
Speaker 2:I think you have something in your tooth, oh, I do. Good thing this isn't on YouTube anymore. I don't even know which tooth it is. No, it's on that side. It's lettuce. You can keep going while I try to figure this out.
Speaker 1:Okay, so I guess that's the first thing I'll start with. Jake got laid off. That was a long process, um, he currently now has a job, so, um, good, I'm glad you told that you didn't leave him in suspense yeah, which is really really good.
Speaker 1:Um it's he got like it's basically a pretty big promotion and it's with like a new, it's a new avenue. He used to be working with the church that's pretty much all he's ever worked for Different churches and this step kind of led him to get out of that, which I am very excited about, and he's also very happy about um.
Speaker 2:But it was definitely more of like um, there was resistance on his end with that because he feels called for sure, he's got like a greater purpose and he feels he's got service in his blood, so he he can't help that part. However, however, understanding exactly how he feels not being called to a church but feeling called to a profession that felt like in service of others teaching I can understand. It's a really hard thing to let go of and to think about. How am I going to provide for my family or take care of myself or take care of my kids or take care of my wife and all those things? And I think it's a beautiful thing that we have people that are willing to do jobs. I just wish that we would pay them more. I just wish that it would be.
Speaker 1:I also don't think it's just the pay. I don't think so either.
Speaker 2:I think it's the mentality too. It's very much the mentality, and it's very much like we expect more, more, more, and we are going to give you less, less, less. It really is a very broken mentality and it's constantly. Well, it's in the service of whatever, and in this case, it's in the service of God, and my case is in the service of the children. It's about the kids, always about the kids. I just went to a training yesterday because I like to stay current to what's going on, especially because I create resources for kids and for teachers, and they were talking about AI in the classroom, which, you know, I had one-to-one iPads. I would have been all over this. This would have been like, so fun for me, and I'm listening to these trainings and they're like, and one of the first things they said was well, you know, we're doing it for the kids, and I was like it was like nails on a chalkboard, because every time people have to say that to you, that's why you're in. It is for the kids.
Speaker 1:You don't need to be reminded of that every single time, and when people say that, you know they're getting ready to manipulate you or use you in some way it's kind of like when people are like acting racist and they're like, well, I have a black friend like gosh, you know. It's like that similar like where they're like trying to excuse whatever the bad behavior is with like the thing that is supposed to be the good part of it, almost, you know, well, it does feel manipulative.
Speaker 2:It does feel like it's a manipulation tactic and I just I don't know, I feel very turned off by that. I mean, that might be my own personal experiences, but I just feel like I don't know it, just ugh. So I am actually really happy we don't have to keep harping on that point, because I really could go on and on. But I'm really happy that Jake has found something that not only recognizes his exceptional talent but compensates him fairly. And also, it's not even just about the pay, it's about like, it's time to go, it's time to leave. I'm going to honor your boundaries. You're not. You don't have to take this home with you. You don't have to. I don't expect you to be finished with this by tomorrow morning at eight o'clock, even though it's five in the evening. You know, it's just, it's so refreshing. And also, they gave him like, didn't they give him like a gift when he came as well?
Speaker 1:They gave him like a massive gift bag. They've provided him with a laptop so like he doesn't have to use his personal one. They gave him the tools for the job.
Speaker 2:I know crazy.
Speaker 1:This is what I mean, this is what I mean.
Speaker 2:I mean as people that work in nonprofit or in public whatever, or churches they don't get the tools for the job. I remember showing up at a media specialist as a new media specialist in a Title I school that had funds because they were Title I, they had more money on funds. I had zero crayons, zero pencils, no paper, yes, no staplers, no staples, no paperclips, nothing. And I'm like what? And I had to have to teach classes all day. This is when I was on the rotation and I'm like I don't, what am am I? What am I going to do? They have to have crayon. I had to do a go fund me so that I could get essential supplies. And then they were like you're not allowed to do a go fund me and I'm like, well, you can come arrest me because what do you mean?
Speaker 1:you're not okay? Well, then, provide me with the tools I need. Yeah, they they said I wasn't allowed, but I did it anyway, and it got sent to the school.
Speaker 2:I didn't try to, they said I wasn't allowed, but I did it anyway and it got sent to the school. I didn't try to hide it and I got like tons of and you know who donated Nanny and Steve and Miss Sergi, Like those people that basically donated and I'm like this is my friends and family, and so you know. Oh well, I got the materials and I had what I needed. There was no other way. It's unbelievable to think that you would go to a job and they would not give you the tools you need, and that's one thing that I appreciate about working for a company or work I mean, even in the I don't know what do you call it like in the trade industry. They don't expect you to come to the job and like provide all of your own materials. I do think you have to build, like a tool set or whatever, a toolkit, but they give you things in the meantime. Maybe you want your own tools. I don't know exactly how that works, but why?
Speaker 1:They still give you stuff, because I remember Jackson got still give you stuff.
Speaker 2:And because I remember Jackson got a lot of stuff when he went and worked on a job site. He I was in shock when he came home with like multiple shirts. You know his hard hat. You know a koozie, a little stress hard hat that I love. I don't know where that thing is because I used to walk around with that thing constantly and you know some basic.
Speaker 1:He got all that stuff too. He got a hard hat, he got shirts, he got his vest. He got like all of his like PTE stuff, like yeah, all of it's like provided.
Speaker 2:Yeah, even PTE. That's another example. Like during COVID, they provided us with I don't even think they did, or maybe they did, or maybe they did one mask and that was it, and you basically were expected to wear that mask over and over again. And because I did that, I got an infection on my nose and ended up having some kind of a cyst on my nose that now my nose, at the tip of my nose, is permanently deformed thanks to that and, um, it was crazy. I'm like you're not gonna buy us masks. We have to wear them. You're not gonna buy them. It was so insane. And hand sanitizer and oh gosh yeah so Jake got a new job.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all right back to the point. Jake got a new job and they are taking care of him, yeah, most importantly, and he's happy yes, this is his second.
Speaker 1:It's his second week this week, um, although, like they, he literally started at like their busiest week. Um, so they have like one of their biggest events that was happening this past week. Excuse me, so like he is tired from that. He it's where he's working is like an hour drive from where we live. I didn't realize it was that far. Yeah, it's, it's far.
Speaker 2:What is the location of his? In St Pete, okay, it takes an hour. Wow, and you don't.
Speaker 1:You have no future plans of moving to st pete not to st pete, but we're thinking about moving to tampa at some point, which would be like about a 20 minute drive from where he is. So um, yeah, but he's like but he's like now he's like. It was like one extreme to the other, because he was not working for almost two months so he was home like trying to figure things out for that long and now he was like it's like people overload yeah.
Speaker 1:So, like he was only seeing me, tebow and Daisy, for two months. So like he was only seeing me, tebow and Daisy, for two months, and then it was like here's the biggest event of our company, that you're going to have to talk to people and film and all this stuff. So he's tired, yeah, but it's good. This week has been busy, busy, yeah, and he was sick his first week, um, like his orientation week, and we had just come back from New York yeah, we don't talk about that too yeah, and then I like was like I could feel my body like fighting to not get sick.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so like that whole week that we had gotten back I was like really, really tired and like trying my hardest to not get sick. And then this week I ate or drank something bad after Pilates on Monday and was up for like hours in the middle of the night.
Speaker 2:Oh, that is the worst. Yeah, yeah, that is the worst. Yeah, that is the worst.
Speaker 1:I hate that I have puked like that yeah, yeah years and the next day, like my, the back of, like my tongue and my throat were like sore.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah like muscles like you're using muscles so wild like I'm like this is such a weird feeling and I said that to a couple people and they're like, yeah, like that happens, like when you throw up, and I was like it's just that you don't remember when you don't like I am not when I normally, if I get like the flu, like I get the flu but like it is not common for me to throw up yeah me either that's not a common thing for me, either I get it was like it was yeah, and then the next day and I had been up for like hours like just laying on the bathroom floor, so the next day I like I didn't do anything, I just like slept and I also didn't feel like eating anything because I feel like crap.
Speaker 1:So it was just like a weird, a weird, a weird couple of weeks like physically, health-wise, and then like mentally, like jake getting back into work and like just a lot of things a lot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a lot. I want to point out something because I thought it was so cool, um, and that is like how great you were. During the whole thing. You were like, I mean, talk about like being in awe of someone. Your patience and your faith was so obvious and so strong. Like you were like nope, we got this, we're going to figure it out. You didn't. I never saw you waver figure it out. I never saw you waver. Jake immediately thought about going back to a church that had offered him a job previously that was lower pay than he was making, which is already bad enough. And you were like nope, we're not going backwards, we've got this, we're going to keep moving forward. Something's going to come up. And you were just it was such a beautiful thing to witness Because I'm like, oh man, I I mean, I spent a few days feeling really guilty about how I don't feel like I was that kind of support in my past life and and I was like, although that person was like, no, you can check that off the list, you were a supportive wife.
Speaker 2:Because I felt like, oh my, I was scared. I was so scared. When any little thing, I mean, it's a totally different circumstance, but when any little thing happened, I was terrified and I just thought I mean, I feel like I'm better now. Now I'm like I'll jump and I'll do it and I'll take my chances. In fact, alexis told me recently that I liked taking risks and I was like what she's like, you like risks. I'm like I do not like risks.
Speaker 1:I don't know if I like risks, but you definitely are open to taking risks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, more than I used to be. I used to be so scared constantly and live in such fear and um but you still did it anyways, even like that's always.
Speaker 1:Something that I thought about you is that you're definitely you're open to taking risks for like what's right and like like you're a justice seeker, so like that is like you'll go out of your way, like whether it's scary or not and do it anyways.
Speaker 2:But well, thanks, baby, but I was really proud of you. I just felt like what a great even I talked to to dex about it. I'm like my brother, I'm, I'm like can you imagine that having that kind of support and he did, he said he's's like that makes a world of difference, like what a world of difference that makes for your partner. And it's just, I mean, you're giving them the freedom to like, fail and figure it out without feeling, I mean, he's going to beat himself up enough, and I'm sure he did.
Speaker 1:Well, he was scared himself, like, just himself, like, yeah, I mean like he. The getting laid off was like not something either of us saw coming.
Speaker 2:It was very like, much like abrupt, yeah, um, and it was also upsetting, because it's friends and like part of life and it's still our church like we still attend the church.
Speaker 1:So like it's. It was like emotional on different levels and like my, like one of my best friends, like she worked there at the time and she was like, oh my god, like I can't believe that, like he's not gonna be there every day, like, like, and so, yeah, it was like it was definitely a lot.
Speaker 1:And then, money wise, it was like he immediately was like oh shit, like what do I do? Because in our relationship, like he is, he provides more financially than I do at the moment. And so I think he was like what? Like, what are we gonna do? And I just felt like it was gonna be okay, like I, I don't know like, and I also was like us like being scared and freaked out, like until something comes along, like isn't going to help. Yeah it.
Speaker 2:No, but you, you really you stood strong in that because because even I mean, I even like I don't know if people know that you also do work for me, like you don't work for me but you do, like you're a contractor that I hire or that I pay, and I had to like lower the hours because things have been really rough and really hard and I didn't want to. I was like I'm just not going to and you're like you have to. This is about your business. And and you, you didn't even I don't know if you hung up the phone or got off whatever and cried, but you were like you're like no, it's going to be all right, it's going to be, it's going to be okay, and it was.
Speaker 2:It was like I never would have done that if it wasn't for you like switching out of, like we're not talking about mom and daughter, we're talking about this is a business and this is a business decision and this is what's best for your business. And you're really good at compartmentalizing in that way and I am like no, I'll just be starving and I'll still be paying, because I can't let you down or anyone else that you know. It's just, you're just unbelievable. You, just you weren't. You wouldn't even waver at all Like. You were so steadfast in your faith, and that was just a very beautiful thing to witness.
Speaker 1:Thank you, thank you, thank you. Yeah, I was one thing I was saying to Jake actually last night. I was like, okay, I'm like tired, like I need you to fill me back up please. I've done a lot of supporting these past couple of months, so I would like a foot massage and some chocolate. Thank you.
Speaker 2:Oh man, foot massage, some chocolate, thank you. Oh, and foot massage, oh, that's great. Okay, that's really great. So Jake's got a job, jake's happy, jake's doing well. You guys are just getting acclimated. So you went through some health issues, but things are on the mend. You're feeling better now. Yeah, You're still kind of.
Speaker 1:I'm feeling better. I'm just like tired, just because, like I also, I'm going to Peru in a couple of weeks and I'm so excited. I cannot wait to do that.
Speaker 2:I wish I was going.
Speaker 1:Also the thing about being a business owner which, like you understand, but like maybe some people listening to this won't, is that like you don't like time off is like you have to work double time before you take time off. So I am like last night I was up to like midnight like finishing stuff for clients.
Speaker 1:So that way, like, and today, like normally I don't work on Fridays, like Fridays is like not a day that I normally work, but like I've been working today and like will be working late tonight so that way I can prepare um myself for Peru, so that way all my clients are taken care of and, like all the work that, like I would be doing during that time, is just done ahead of time. So that in and of itself is just it's just a lot.
Speaker 2:It's a lot. No, I agree, I don't think people do realize that that it's you know, when you work on your own time, but it's, it's like you do, but you still have to do it. Because I have the same way, because I'm going to London, paris and Ireland in the summer for several weeks and I don't want to work. I don't want to work during that time, and that is right before the busiest time of the season for me, and that's back to school, and so I'm like, is that a mistake? But I'm working like a dog right now so that I can go and actually just like, enjoy and meet a handsome Irishman.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you have to be willing to move here. Well, we could. You can't move to a different country right before I get married and then have a baby.
Speaker 2:Oh really no, I know.
Speaker 1:We can talk about this another time, yeah.
Speaker 2:How about, if we like, did some time splitting, Like we lived in Ireland for this amount of time and we lived in America. I could approve of that. Okay, not that I could approve of that Okay.
Speaker 1:Not that you need my approval, because you can do whatever you want to do.
Speaker 2:No, but I need to know this. I actually had this conversation with Jake when he asked for my blessing and I was like, well, I might want to move to Ireland, and he was like he was so supportive. Did you not know this story?
Speaker 1:I did not know this story. Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:All right, never mind, that's a story for another time.
Speaker 1:I mean, I want you to be happy ultimately.
Speaker 2:Well, I know, and I don't want to miss grandchildren, like I don't want to miss that there's a lot of. It's so confusing for me right now because I honestly have been looking into, like what it would take to relocate and Ireland is a little harder than like Portugal is like yeah, so Portugal is kind of on the list and so I've just been thinking and looking and whatever.
Speaker 2:But the thing that stops me is, like I can't, I'm like I can't, I don't want to be a grandma. That's like hi, sweetie, on a FaceTime, Like I want.
Speaker 1:I still want to travel, so like it's not like we wouldn't like come see you, like it would be an opportunity for us to travel, obviously, like when they're like an infant, like there's.
Speaker 2:It's hard. It's hard and you don't.
Speaker 1:You want five children, so yeah, well, maybe I mean, like that's what I've always thought I wanted, but like um again, like I've not had one child, so we'll see what happens then. But um, yeah, I've always wanted a big family, so, um, but I also like people do it, like people still travel with kids. But I also like people do it, like people still travel with kids.
Speaker 2:No, you're right. You're right, people do.
Speaker 1:And I don't want my life to stop, like when I have kids, like I have always said and like told Jake, like whenever we have kids, like I don't want to keep saying like, oh, we got to travel now while we can.
Speaker 1:Like I'll be able to travel unless I'm like deathly ill or something like there's no, until we like can't. Like when we have kids, like they will also travel with us, like I want our lives to continue on when we have kids too, and obviously that's a lot easier said than done yeah, before you have the kids yeah, because there's, you totally want something.
Speaker 2:You're the best parent ever before you have kids. You're the best version of what you think before you have them. And then you're like, oh my gosh, it changes, also being like, no, our lives are not going to center around them, they're going to center around us, because I think that's a mistake that was made raising you. Honestly, you and Jackson, I've always felt that way. I'm like we should have been focused on God and our relationship. That should have been number one and you guys should have intertwined with us and our whole world revolved around you two. And that I don't think that's a health, that's not a healthy marriage and it's not. It's not. And also, it raises entitled people. Yeah, um, I don't think you're entitled, but, um, it's, it's, it's, yeah, it's just not.
Speaker 1:I just I, I think that, yeah, because the world doesn't revolve around really anyone, so like it shouldn't revolve around anyone from the beginning. So yeah, that's just always. I'm like when people are like, oh, travel now while you're talking, and I'm like well, you can just you know, people have their different opinions and you can, and that's something that you'll have.
Speaker 2:People will constantly give it to you unsolicited advice, before you know, and you can take what you want and leave what you don't want, and it's just but anyway. So.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, I'm working a bunch before Peru and then, I also have this like wild opportunity that actually like very recently came up my one of my friends that I met in Bali last year. Um, she's a photographer and a content creator, um, and she's like basically like traveling all over the world and like working with different like hotels and activities and stuff to like get free opportunities to then like promote their stuff. And she is going to be in Morocco and she was like I need somebody to come with me to help me like like be in the videos or like to yeah, or whatever, and you're so good at that.
Speaker 1:And basically like you would get like free stays in hotels and stuff. You would just have to cover your flights. And I was like I'll do it, I'll come, and so that will be like the end of the first week of June and like this into the second week of June. So like it'll be like I'll be back from Peru for a week and then I'll go to Morocco. Oh wow, yeah, so um it. But I was like I can't, that's like a full body.
Speaker 1:Yes, for me like that's something I want that, that part of like where people are like, do it while you can like the last minute-ness like that is a do it while you can kind of thing to me, because like there will need to be more required planning for things later on. But I'm like I can do that and like I would love to do that. So I like messaged her right away and I was like, yes, I want to do this.
Speaker 2:So you don't. You're not getting paid, you're just getting the stay.
Speaker 1:I'm just getting to say so, I have to again work. I'm basically working a whole entire month ahead and that's oh hard.
Speaker 2:No, that's what I'm doing too, because I'm trying to get um, because I'm taking two weeks off when I go to peru.
Speaker 1:I'm taking two solid weeks off yeah I'm like the day before I leave like I am, that's the start of the week, like I'm like not working then, and then when I get back, there's like a few days that I'm like I'm not.
Speaker 2:I'm not trying to work, because I remember when I got back from Bali I was dead tired, yeah yeah, I was just gonna say that that is a huge life lesson, because you want to make when you return from places, you want to ease back into your work life and not have it slammed in front of you. So am I not only trying to get all of July situated, I'm trying to get August situated as well, so that when I come back at the end of July I'm not scrounging, cramming everything in before August when I'm like, and also the jet lag and just the whole thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it won't be as bad with Peru as it was with Bali, because Bali was like a 12-hour time difference and the flight was like a total. The whole travel time was like 35 hours and Peru is not that long and the time difference, I think, is like maybe an hour or two. Um, if that even, um, so that's nice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that'll be good so that won't be but that won't be as bad. I don't know what my situation is. I don't. My flight is not as long as yours.
Speaker 1:It's still like over 12 hours, but it's not um yeah, the one to morocco is really long, that one's long so that will be 35, that's more than australia.
Speaker 1:Well, the whole travel time total oh, okay, okay it was like the first flight was like 11 hours and then the second flight was like I think it was like 14, I don't know. It was like two really long flights, but like I had layovers, and so the total time I was traveling was 35 hours, but really like the flight like as a whole was probably like 22 hours. Yeah, it was long anyway.
Speaker 2:So that's all coming up and that's exciting. And then what else is has gone on? We went on a trip to New York. We went to New York. Actually, I have another thing, like a business thing, to share, since we are like in the business. I mean not that anyone can see this, but I published a book. Yay, I published my first book.
Speaker 1:It's number three in kids and like Noteworthy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I think it's for not kids' birthday parties, but like it's a party, it's an idea that you could use for. Anyway, it's called Hilarious Would you Rather this or that? Fun Writing for Kids. So it's basically a workbook for kids, but it has some really fun this or that, or would you rather? And then kids respond and it encourages them to write, it encourages them to draw, it encourages them to be creative, and so it's got 50 different prompts and like. One of the examples is this one is not as like a silly one, but this is like a would you rather go to an amusement park or to a water park?
Speaker 1:Water park because we live in Florida and it's way too hot.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's exactly what I would say. Here's more of a silly one. Would you rather hear a ringing in your ears all day or smell the smell of poop all day?
Speaker 1:That's so hard because I feel like the ring in my ears would give me a migraine and that wouldn't be worth it to me, so I might choose the poop.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's things like that. And so then they have to kind of tell why and they give their whatever, and then at the end of the book there's five would you rather create? And so then they get to choose like would they rather create, would they rather build a cat tower, or would they rather create and build a birdcage? So then they pick one or the other and then they use simple materials, they work through like a design thinking where they think about their creation, they brainstorm, they have a little. You know what I mean. So it's really a very fun book and I'm excited that it has sold on Amazon.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's number three in new releases in children's party games books.
Speaker 2:So it would be fun to do like as a party favor. I mean it is a little bit more expensive because it's color, it's full color, but that also. Yeah, thank you, it's worth it and also it's something that you can keep and just keep.
Speaker 1:You know, having fun with the prompts because, like for road trips, absolutely for road trips like that's like a whole activity book that they can take, and it's just the book and then you just need pencils and whatever else, maybe some crayons, and you're good to go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, so I'm excited about that. That was a business thing that happened and yeah, and I'm still doing. I started doing my teacher podcast but I'm changing it. It's just been my content from Readers in the Making, so it's my One Tired Teacher podcast, but it's been Readers in the Making, so it's my. Youtube video has been also my podcast, so that's been fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all right, so that's caught up. Let's talk about New York, and do you have anything else to catch up on?
Speaker 1:I don't think so All right, that's really all that's happened. I mean that's my recent. It's been like now a couple of months, so I'm like I don't know what else has been happening. Yeah, but yeah, we went to New York.
Speaker 2:Went to New York.
Speaker 1:We saw Hugh Jackman.
Speaker 2:Yay, we saw Hugh Jackman. Oh, that was the whole reason we went to New York but we had, I mean, the whole trip. I thought was great. But Hugh Jackman, I really, I mean, I have like loved him since it's been at least 20 years because he was in a movie with Ashley Judd called Someone Like you, I think it was called, and oh, he was so cute and it was like then on, and then you know all the Wolverine movies and the Greatest Showman and all these different things.
Speaker 2:So he did like a performance. It was just about Hugh Jackman. It was all the songs that he's done in previous things. So we did like a performance. It was just about Hugh Jackman. It was all the songs that he's done in previous things. I went to see the music man with Nanny and we were on the front row and I gasped when I realized he was on stage. I was like, and everyone in theater was like looking at me and he looked right at me, winked and smiled and continued on and I was like, oh my, my gosh, I actually bawled after we walked out of that play. I just cried um, in this play I didn't cry, but I did get. So I look like a child.
Speaker 1:I didn't realize I look like that you were taking video of me and fun to watch you for sure I was like clapping, I know the man and I were like looking at each other like like it was just like sweet to like watch like it was like pure joy is what it was.
Speaker 2:I did. It felt like pure joy. I don't think I have been that happy. I don't even remember. It was just such a good feeling and I don't know why. It wasn't like anything was happening to me, but it was just like I don't know. I mean, I follow on Instagram. I understand.
Speaker 1:I mean, like that's kind of how I felt, like with Taylor Swift. Yeah, when I saw Taylor Swift, it was like just like that pure, like oh, like you've connected with somebody for so long, yeah, and like you've watched their career grow into what it is, and then you get to like witness, like them in their glory, and you're like there's a part of you that's like I'm so proud of you, like yeah, yeah, where you've come, and also like I'm so glad and honored like that I get to witness it like in person. So it's definitely and it's like it's an energy thing too, like he, his energy was like just like he was excited and ready to be there and like that was really cool.
Speaker 2:It was very infectious. And then when he sang when he was like he's playing a Neil Diamond impersonator in a movie coming up with Kate Hudson and I was like I loved Neil Diamond as a kid, I used to play his records when I was like I loved Neil Diamond as a kid. I used to play his records when I was little and like seventh, sixth and seventh grade and just pretend like, just sing and pretend like I was on stage with Neil Diamond. So as soon as he started singing Song Song Blue and had that American vest on, I just was like, oh, I started crying. I was like, oh, my God, it was like too I don't know how to describe it.
Speaker 2:It was just so exciting. And then, after it was over, you left early to go stake out some like territory for like when he comes out afterwards, because he is known to do that. And oh my gosh, that was crazy. So I get out there. First of all, we couldn't find you. We were like walking around the whole entire Radio City Music Hall and it was like a mob of people, and I don't do well in a mob of people. I was getting so, and then nanny and I'm like come on, and it was just so. Then I get to you and you yank me in and then you're like I'm gonna push you and I was like you're gonna push me.
Speaker 1:And I knew you were gonna not like that. In the moment In my head I had decided I was just going to be okay with you temporarily being annoyed or upset with me, as for the later payoff of you getting to be like close to him or get a picture or whatever it was going to be. So I was like I'm just going to prepare myself a little bit for her to be like anxiously frustrated with me about the pushing and the close to people and the mobs and then later she's going to be grateful for this, yeah.
Speaker 2:And I should have. Like we waited for so long that my feet started hurting, my back started hurting, I was sweating. I got scared. So because I was right there, I could have reached out and touched his arm and I got scared. I'm like I don't want to be a weird stalker lady that touches him without permission and but I wish that I had been like can we take a picture? Because I know he would have. I watched him do it in the you know, during the show, and I just know that he would have and I just got super scared. And then this lady had her hand right in front of my face with her sign and I pushed her hand away.
Speaker 1:And then I hear you go yeah, basically hitting you, and I was like I'm literally gonna push you to the ground if you don't move your hand you were so funny, you were like so aggressive and I was like oh my god, I've just been in those situations a lot now at this point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, yeah, I did like I used to go to playlist live, which was like a convention. I remember like youtubers and stuff and um, when I first ever went, I had that feeling of like being so scared, like, because it's like you're like looking at like somebody that you have seen on a screen for so long and they're that close to you. You're like starstruck and you feel like you can't speak. But I remember when I had gone for the first time, I went with my friend at the time and she was like you just kind of have to like go, like you like have to make yourself go, and once like I got past that barrier with like the first person, then I was like okay, because like then it was like they were expecting that, like they had. That's why they were there was to people. So, like, when you're in situations like that, you have to like make yourself like push past it just to get there because, like, the payoff is what they are expecting is what they're expecting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and so I wish that I'd been. I wish I'd been a little bit more aggressive and asked for that and spoken up. Because I did, I got really scared. I didn't even get to catch his eye and I was like oh and um, and he went by like our area kind of fast. He was so slow in that one across the way and I was like stop like the one girl that was talking to him. I'm like wait, everyone needs to get a chance. And um, and I'm like that's silly.
Speaker 1:So I and if you hadn't been there I would have left, like I kept turning around and you're like no, because I was like we're not gonna leave because you had told me about when you had waited when you were there for the music we didn't wait, we left.
Speaker 2:We should have waited he came out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah and I was like this is not gonna be one of those situations like I got up and like pulled ass to this barricade so that we would have a spot, like we're not leaving, like he's coming out. So, especially because I knew I knew I know what to look for too, with like if they're actually gonna come or not, and like his security was there and there was police officers and I was like if he wasn't coming to come or not, and like his security was there and there was police officers and I was like if he wasn't coming, they would be, they wouldn't be there, they wouldn't be standing there like waiting for that. So I was like he's definitely coming, it's just a matter of when.
Speaker 2:So I was like we're not leaving, like your feet will bleed until we wait, they felt like they were going to and I felt like I was peeing, like I was just dripping sweat. I'm like this is terrible, but it was really cool and I was on a high. After that, I was wide awake and it was like what time? Like midnight.
Speaker 1:It was late. It was like I think it was like 1030. But then by the time we left it was probably like 1130, 1145.
Speaker 2:It was late, yeah, and I stayed awake till I think like two o'clock in the morning. I could not go to sleep. Part of it was I drank. I had some of your Coke and so I was like on caffeine that I never I don't even drink caffeine anymore and I'm like I was just I could not go to sleep. And then I stayed on that high and I was so tired on Sunday when we went for brunch. I was so tired, but I'm like, and even like I went to a drama bookstore by myself and you guys did your thing, and then I came back to the hotel and I actually texted both you and Nana you see what you were doing and neither one of you responded. And so I'm like, yeah, I'm like I'm not going to just sit here in New York, I'm going to go walk around. And I mean, I've been like this is probably like the 18th or 19th time. I can't believe how many times I've been to New York.
Speaker 1:I actually feel too At this point. I'm like man, I've been a lot. Yeah, it's like when people go they like, ask me where to go, and I'm like. I have some suggestions for you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a crazy. Yeah, I know I did that too. I just it's like I won't recommend the restaurant we went to on the last night, but anyway if you like mac and cheese, I would recommend it. Or a good ice cream sandwich Best mac and cheese, it was so good.
Speaker 2:Or a yummy ice cream sandwich. That's the place to go. But anyway, so I went walking and I went to different bookstores and that was really fun too. Like I just had. I really enjoyed it. But I was in such a good mood I'm like nothing is going to bring me down, and that lasted for like a week. Like I felt that way. I'm like everything that's going on in the world, everything's fine. I felt that way. I'm like everything that's going on in the world, it's everything's fine. I got to see Hugh Jackman, so I mean, I did come down, down, down. I was like, oh man, but it was good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we have the best food when we were there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we had really good food.
Speaker 1:The French toast, I still.
Speaker 2:I miss that. I don't even know the name of that restaurant. I need to write that down.
Speaker 1:I have a picture of it's like a rooftop. It's like I think that's what it's called Haven Haven. It's like in a little boutique hotel, but like the french toast litter, it looked like a, like a square brick that they put on your plate and and the outside was like crunchy with like gosh, it was so good. Cinnamon sugar and then, like you, cut into it and it was so fluffy and soft inside, oh, so it had a blueberry, like yeah, it had like this like cream cheese, blueberry like so good. And it was delicious.
Speaker 2:I was delicious.
Speaker 1:I would go back strictly for that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, me too, for sure. And also, we ended up going to a play on Broadway. That was that Danny picked, that was so good, and Juliet, which I thought was adorable. I would totally see it again. I want to see it again. I love the music. I've been listening to the soundtrack since we got home. I just I think it is such a fun show.
Speaker 1:So, um, yeah, it was good, so it was fun yeah, yeah, I got back and I was like I am very tired I was still in my hue jackman high for a bit and then I, then I got tired.
Speaker 1:It's just been this past week that I'm like, yeah, I had no idea what to expect with hue Jackman, because I kind of just like tagged along at the last minute like the plans were that you and Nanny were gonna go and I was like I want to come um, and I didn't know that it was just like a Hugh. Jackman show like I thought we were seeing, like the greatest showman, like that's what I thought so when he said, if you came here for this, you're gonna be sorely disappointed, no, no, I realized it once we like got there and I also like wasn't 100 sure, because I was like I wasn't seeing anything and it was.
Speaker 1:It was probably the day before because it said like live from New York with love or whatever, hugh Jackman, and that's when I was like okay, it's not what I thought it was but, I, was. It's not like. I was like, oh, I'm bummed, like it was still a really great show, but it just wasn't. I had no idea like what to expect to me. I was like I'm just so long for the ride so yeah, and we had good seats.
Speaker 2:I mean, we were were like in row 22. If you hadn't come, then we might have been closer. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding, it was just. It was so the fact that he went into the audience, though I was like, oh man, when I was at the Music, man, I would have been right there. Yeah, so it was. Yeah, it was great Anyway.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 2:So I think we, I think we thoroughly caught up yeah, I think so too all right. Well, I mean, this was kind of a long episode too all right.
Speaker 1:Well, I like longer episodes, so yeah, it's fine, I do too. All right well, until next time we will see you in two weeks or two weeks you can go back and listen to us whenever you want, but yeah, a new episode will no-transcript.
